From owner-rockhounds-digest@drizzle.com Wed Sep 13 09:18:15 2000 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 23:49:02 -0700 From: rockhounds-digest Reply-To: rockhounds@drizzle.com To: rockhounds-digest@drizzle.com Subject: rockhounds-digest V1 #584 rockhounds-digest Saturday, September 9 2000 Volume 01 : Number 584 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 08:37:42 -0700 From: Allison Nilsen Subject: Anyone ever dig for fulgurites? Good Morning Everyone, Has anyone on the list ever dug for fulgurites ( petrified lightning )? If so, I was wondering if I could get some tips. Thanks. Allison ------------------------------ Date: 9 Sep 2000 08:26:17 -0700 From: "Tim Fisher" Subject: Ebay "Mister Lister" Has anyone tried using this software? Seems like a good idea but I tried many times and could not upload anything to Ebay. Seems they are too busy to take my stuff. That would make my entering tens of items into the software a huge waste of time (duh). Anyway I won't waste any more time with it unless someone else has successfully uploaded their items to ebay (not at some insane hour like 2:30AM)... Tim Fisher, 1995 President, Pacific Fishery Biologists Ore-ROCK-On Rockhounding Web Site PFB Information mailto:tim@OreRockOn.com WWW http://OreRockOn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 08:34:35 -0700 (PDT) From: The Hammer Subject: Re: Anyone ever dig for fulgurites? I can offer no digging tips, but wanted to mention I have a few of them..one is HUGE..they are not the typical fulgerite formation...where lightning strikes sand, creating a branch like formation. These are from a large pure quartz deposit a top of a high hill. Still the molten "glass" effect but not branch like...gee I wonder what my pieces are worth? - --- Allison Nilsen wrote: > Good Morning Everyone, > > Has anyone on the list ever dug for fulgurites ( petrified lightning > )? If so, I was wondering if I could get some tips. Thanks. > > Allison > > ################################################################# > # To subscribe or unsubscribe to the Rockhoundz List, send mail # > # to with the following keys: # > # subscribe rockhounds (or) unsubscribe rockhounds # > # To post, send mail to # > ################################################################# ===== "On the stormy sea of moving emotion...tossed about up like a ship on the ocean"-Kansas Minerals? check out http://members.fortunecity.com/hammerron __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:49:03 EDT From: Mijo730@aol.com Subject: Re: Ebay "Mister Lister" Hi Tim, This is a great program I use it all the time. The people who run it are super and everytime I have needed help they have responded very quickly. One time they even called up and spent 10 minutes talking me through a problem I have had with the program. Mike www.mijo-opals.com ------------------------------ Date: 9 Sep 2000 10:20:21 -0700 From: "Tim Fisher" Subject: Re: Ebay "Mister Lister" I found the answer on their chat board. Seems I had to enter a bunch of codes to get it to work right. Thanks everyone for your help! Tim Fisher, 1995 President, Pacific Fishery Biologists Ore-ROCK-On Rockhounding Web Site PFB Information mailto:tim@OreRockOn.com WWW http://OreRockOn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 10:36:43 -0700 From: "Cheryl" Subject: Re: Ebay "Mister Lister" The only drawback I have found to Mister Lister is that you can literally have 10 items closing within 10 seconds. That doesn't give bidders an opportunity to get last second bids in, unless they use something like Auction Trakker to spike. (No, as a Seller, I have no problem with spikers!) However, until Ebay comes out with an update, Mister Lister does not have the new Ebay categories. So, you will still need to go into Ebay to revise the items, one at a time, unless your particular category was not changed. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Fisher To: ; Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 8:26 AM Subject: Ebay "Mister Lister" > Has anyone tried using this software? Seems like a good idea but I tried > many times and could not upload anything to Ebay. Seems they are too busy > to take my stuff. That would make my entering tens of items into the > software a huge waste of time (duh). Anyway I won't waste any more time > with it unless someone else has successfully uploaded their items to ebay > (not at some insane hour like 2:30AM)... > > Tim Fisher, 1995 President, Pacific Fishery Biologists > Ore-ROCK-On Rockhounding Web Site > PFB Information > mailto:tim@OreRockOn.com > WWW http://OreRockOn.com > > ################################################################# > # To subscribe or unsubscribe to the Rockhoundz List, send mail # > # to with the following keys: # > # subscribe rockhounds (or) unsubscribe rockhounds # > # To post, send mail to # > ################################################################# > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 21:29:00 +0200 From: "Dillen" Subject: RE: Anyone ever dig for fulgurites? Prof. Dr. Renaat VAN TASSEL (after whom the mineral vantasselite was named) did a world-wide review on that topic recently. I can send you an issue of our magazine Geonieuws where it was published. He recovered as far as we could verify the largest fulgurite in the world ; it is kept in the geological collections of the K.B.I.N. (the Belgian insitute of natural history) in Brussels. The lengthy article is in Dutch, but you could certainly use the tables, localities and pictures, I think. If interested, please let me know. Best regards, Rik Dillen Doornstraat 15 B-9170 Sint-Gillis-Waas Belgium Tel. + 32 3 770 6007 E-mail dillen@online.be Homepage : http://user.online.be/dillen/index.html >>> Belgian minerals (ardennite, vantasselite, ferristrunzite and more) >>> An own find on a Korean stamp >>> Exchange list Mineral collector's page http://www.minerant.org >>> The Dana errata page >>> The virtual quarry >>> and much more ! >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rockhounds@drizzle.com >[mailto:owner-rockhounds@drizzle.com]On Behalf Of Allison Nilsen >Sent: zaterdag 9 september 2000 17:38 >To: rockhounds@drizzle.com >Subject: Anyone ever dig for fulgurites? > > >Good Morning Everyone, > > Has anyone on the list ever dug for fulgurites ( petrified lightning >)? If so, I was wondering if I could get some tips. Thanks. > >Allison > >################################################################# ># To subscribe or unsubscribe to the Rockhoundz List, send mail # ># to with the following keys: # ># subscribe rockhounds (or) unsubscribe rockhounds # ># To post, send mail to # >################################################################# > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 21:29:15 +0200 From: "Dillen" Subject: RE: Grow your own... chalcanthite! >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rockhounds@drizzle.com >[mailto:owner-rockhounds@drizzle.com]On Behalf Of Oren\Susan Nielson >Sent: vrijdag 8 september 2000 4:31 >To: rockhounds@drizzle.com >Subject: Re: Grow your own... chalcanthite! > > >Hey Keith, they still are really cool crystals and I'm gonna grow some >with my grandkids, ( totally supervised! ) just like my grandpa did with >me! Again, thanks for bringing back a good memory. Whatever they are, >they are fun! Sue opaleyes1@webtv.net > I agree completely, and I'm sorry I had to intervene for only scientific reasons ! Have fun, Rik Dillen Doornstraat 15 B-9170 Sint-Gillis-Waas Belgium Tel. + 32 3 770 6007 E-mail dillen@online.be Homepage : http://user.online.be/dillen/index.html >>> Belgian minerals (ardennite, vantasselite, ferristrunzite and more) >>> An own find on a Korean stamp >>> Exchange list Mineral collector's page http://www.minerant.org >>> The Dana errata page >>> The virtual quarry >>> and much more ! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 12:34:57 -0700 (PDT) From: The Hammer Subject: RE: Anyone ever dig for fulgurites? Hey, Dillen, Could you tell us on the list how large this largest fulgerite is? - --- Dillen wrote: > Prof. Dr. Renaat VAN TASSEL (after whom the mineral vantasselite was named) did a > world-wide review on that topic recently. I > can send you an issue of our magazine Geonieuws where it was published. He > recovered as far as we could verify the largest > fulgurite in the world ; it is kept in the geological collections of the K.B.I.N. > (the Belgian insitute of natural history) in > Brussels. The lengthy article is in Dutch, but you could certainly use the tables, > localities and pictures, I think. > If interested, please let me know. > > Best regards, > > Rik Dillen > Doornstraat 15 > B-9170 Sint-Gillis-Waas > Belgium > > Tel. + 32 3 770 6007 > E-mail dillen@online.be > > Homepage : http://user.online.be/dillen/index.html > >>> Belgian minerals (ardennite, vantasselite, ferristrunzite and more) > >>> An own find on a Korean stamp > >>> Exchange list > > Mineral collector's page > http://www.minerant.org > >>> The Dana errata page > >>> The virtual quarry > >>> and much more ! > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-rockhounds@drizzle.com > >[mailto:owner-rockhounds@drizzle.com]On Behalf Of Allison Nilsen > >Sent: zaterdag 9 september 2000 17:38 > >To: rockhounds@drizzle.com > >Subject: Anyone ever dig for fulgurites? > > > > > >Good Morning Everyone, > > > > Has anyone on the list ever dug for fulgurites ( petrified lightning > >)? If so, I was wondering if I could get some tips. Thanks. > > > >Allison > > > >################################################################# > ># To subscribe or unsubscribe to the Rockhoundz List, send mail # > ># to with the following keys: # > ># subscribe rockhounds (or) unsubscribe rockhounds # > ># To post, send mail to # > >################################################################# > > > > ################################################################# > # To subscribe or unsubscribe to the Rockhoundz List, send mail # > # to with the following keys: # > # subscribe rockhounds (or) unsubscribe rockhounds # > # To post, send mail to # > ################################################################# ===== "On the stormy sea of moving emotion...tossed about up like a ship on the ocean"-Kansas Minerals? check out http://members.fortunecity.com/hammerron __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 16:25:42 -0400 From: "jbryankramer" Subject: Re: Anyone ever dig for fulgurites? Well we make our own here in Gainesville at the University of Florida. They have some pictures of fulgerites on their website and altho there is no caption there is a picture of one with the name guiness.jpg that shows one that appears to be at least 5 meters long. See: http://www.lightning.ece.ufl.edu/pictures/fulgurites/GUINNESS.JPG The directory http://www.lightning.ece.ufl.edu/pictures/fulgurites has a list of some other photos too. I could not get the images to come up on the actual host page: http://www.lightning.ece.ufl.edu/pictures/fulgurites/fulg.htm If you are really interested you could probably contact these people at the Lightning institute. http://www.lightning.ece.ufl.edu You may have seen them on Nova, they generate lightning strokes by firing rockets dragging wires behind into suitable clouds. Bryan > Hey, Dillen, > > Could you tell us on the list how large this largest fulgerite is? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 20:29:31 -0400 From: Kreigh Tomaszewski Subject: Re: Anyone ever dig for fulgurites? Allison, Don't dig for fulgurites during a thunderstorm. You can make your own fulgurite at home. Connect the 'cold' end of a 15,000V neon sign transformer to a metal bucket. Hang an insulated wire connected to the 'hot' end of the transformer in the bucket so that the exposed tip of the wire just touches the bottom of the bucket. Fill the bucket with dry sand. Take proper precautions for dealing with high voltage and plug in the transformer. Slowly withdraw the wire from the bucket. Unplug the transformer. Wait for the fused sand fulgurite to cool. Empty the bucket. The arc between the wire and the bucket is hot enough to melt sand. Molten sand is a good conductor, so you can grow your fulgurite longer than the couple inches arc that can be produced in air. Of course, your homemade fulgurite will not be hollow because it does not have enough amperage. For that you need a bank of leyden jar capacators that are fired thru a water switch, but that is outside the scope of what can be done at home. Have fun, but be safe. Kreigh Tomaszewski Mailto:Kreigh@Tomaszewski.net Please visit our family web pages at http://Tomaszewski.net Allison Nilsen wrote: > > Good Morning Everyone, > > Has anyone on the list ever dug for fulgurites ( petrified lightning > )? If so, I was wondering if I could get some tips. 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