From owner-rockhounds-digest@drizzle.com Sat Sep 8 10:12:37 2001 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 23:49:01 -0700 From: rockhounds-digest Reply-To: rockhounds@drizzle.com To: rockhounds-digest@drizzle.com Subject: rockhounds-digest V1 #957 rockhounds-digest Tuesday, July 17 2001 Volume 01 : Number 957 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 10:36:48 -0400 (EDT) From: gary@cs.pitt.edu Subject: Bear Lake Diggings in Ontario Canada Hello, I am planning to spend two days just at the Bear Lake Diggings at Bancroft, Canada. I know that the site was recently featured in Rocks & Minerals (I have that issue). Is there still plenty to find at the site. Also, is there another site within a 30 minute drive of the Diggings that is also good? Thanks, Gary ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:05:03 -0400 From: "Nathan A. Schachtman" Subject: Bear Lake Diggings in Ontario Canada - --=====================_11793663==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Gary, The Diggings property is quite extensive and there will be mineral collecting there for many years to come. Perhaps not every pit is as productive as some, but you need not worry. As for other sites, yes, there are many. The Chamber of Commerce sells a collecting guide, put together by the local NRC geologist, Chris Fouts. There's also a very good guidebook by Sabina on the Bancroft area. If you like, I can give you the precise citation. It's available from the GSC bookstore, and it's almost always on sale at the Rockhound Gemboree, held in Bancroft. Nathan Schachtman At 10:36 AM 7/17/01 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, > >I am planning to spend two days just at the Bear Lake Diggings at >Bancroft, Canada. I know that the site >was recently featured in Rocks & Minerals (I have that issue). Is there >still plenty to find at the site. >Also, is there another site within a 30 minute drive of the Diggings that >is also good? > >Thanks, >Gary - --=====================_11793663==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Gary,

The Diggings property is quite extensive and there will be mineral collecting there for many years to come. Perhaps not every pit is as productive as some, but you need not worry.

As for other sites, yes, there are many. The Chamber of Commerce sells a collecting guide, put together by the local NRC geologist, Chris Fouts. There's also a very good guidebook by Sabina on the Bancroft area. If you like, I can give you the precise citation. It's available from the GSC bookstore, and it's almost always on sale at the Rockhound Gemboree, held in Bancroft.

Nathan Schachtman

At 10:36 AM 7/17/01 -0400, you wrote:
Hello,

I am planning to spend two days just at the Bear Lake Diggings at Bancroft, Canada. I know that the site
was recently featured in Rocks & Minerals (I have that issue). Is there still plenty to find at the site.
Also, is there another site within a 30 minute drive of the Diggings that is also good?

Thanks,
Gary

- --=====================_11793663==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:23:12 -0400 From: "Karen Lechner" Subject: Re: Bear Lake Diggings in Ontario Canada This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_01AF_01C10EBB.3F4D7A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is the address for the mineral collectors page of the Bancroft = Chamber of Commerce website. The Gemboree is from August 2nd to 5th this = year.=20 http://www.commerce.bancroft.on.ca/collect.htm Regards, Karen -----=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_01AF_01C10EBB.3F4D7A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here is the address for the mineral = collectors page=20 of the Bancroft Chamber of Commerce website. The Gemboree is from August = 2nd to=20 5th this year.
http://www.commer= ce.bancroft.on.ca/collect.htm
Regards,
Karen
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- ------=_NextPart_000_01AF_01C10EBB.3F4D7A80-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:33:12 -0400 (EDT) From: gary@cs.pitt.edu Subject: Re: Bear Lake Diggings in Ontario Canada Thanks, Would you provide the reference for the Sabina guidebook? Gary > > --=====================_11793663==_.ALT > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Gary, > > The Diggings property is quite extensive and there will be mineral > collecting there for many years to come. Perhaps not every pit is as > productive as some, but you need not worry. > > As for other sites, yes, there are many. The Chamber of Commerce sells a > collecting guide, put together by the local NRC geologist, Chris Fouts. > There's also a very good guidebook by Sabina on the Bancroft area. If you > like, I can give you the precise citation. It's available from the GSC > bookstore, and it's almost always on sale at the Rockhound Gemboree, held > in Bancroft. > > Nathan Schachtman > > At 10:36 AM 7/17/01 -0400, you wrote: > >Hello, > > > >I am planning to spend two days just at the Bear Lake Diggings at > >Bancroft, Canada. I know that the site > >was recently featured in Rocks & Minerals (I have that issue). Is there > >still plenty to find at the site. > >Also, is there another site within a 30 minute drive of the Diggings that > >is also good? > > > >Thanks, > >Gary > > > --=====================_11793663==_.ALT > Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" > > > Gary,
>
> The Diggings property is quite extensive and there will be mineral > collecting there for many years to come. Perhaps not every pit is as > productive as some, but you need not worry.
>
> As for other sites, yes, there are many. The Chamber of Commerce sells a > collecting guide, put together by the local NRC geologist, Chris Fouts. > There's also a very good guidebook by Sabina on the Bancroft area. If you > like, I can give you the precise citation. It's available from the GSC > bookstore, and it's almost always on sale at the Rockhound Gemboree, held > in Bancroft.
>
> Nathan Schachtman
>
> At 10:36 AM 7/17/01 -0400, you wrote:
>
Hello,
>
> I am planning to spend two days just at the Bear Lake Diggings at > Bancroft, Canada. I know that the site
> was recently featured in Rocks & Minerals (I have that issue). Is > there still plenty to find at the site.
> Also, is there another site within a 30 minute drive of the Diggings that > is also good?
>
> Thanks,
> Gary

> > > --=====================_11793663==_.ALT-- > > ################################################################# > # Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing Alias: rockhounds@drizzle.com # > # Web: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds/ # > # Subscription Services: majordomo@drizzle.com # > ################################################################# > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:47:36 EDT From: Rocknlight@aol.com Subject: Re: FLINT / ocean picture jasper Vrs.. ROCK Flint True... So many materials have been "MINED OUT" and "NO LONGER AVAILABLE"..... Yet I keep seeing such "RARE" materials, show after show, year after year and in great abundance.... Oh well : ) According to June Culp Zietner..In her book ( Gem and Lapidary materials) , she calls the BC stuff "Ocean Picture Rock" and explains it as a form of silicified serpentine. The mine owners name is Joe Carlton and he mines the stuff about 10 miles form Rock Creek BC... I suppose Joe would be the one to ask about the actual name, although I'm sure rock and stone are synonymous .. Take care RnL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:51:29 -0700 From: John McLaughlin Subject: Re: Sunstone comments How would one hook sunstone to a battery, and what voltage battery. I have some great sunstones and some marginal stones. If there was a treatment to enhance the marginal material I think it would be fun to try (but not for sale). Any suggestions? Thanks, John McLaughlin Glendale, Arizona jemstone@amug.org Bozo5@aol.com wrote: > Sounds like there is some room for color enhancements. Anyone ever hook a > sunstone up to a battery? Did Tim say there is a bunch of KMnO4 there? A > good oxidizer. 5 Cu^2+ + MnO4^- +8H^+ => Mn^2+ + 5Cu^3+ +4H2O. > > So many possibilities. > > Flint ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:17:55 -0400 From: "J Bryan Kramer" Subject: Re: Sunstone comments Unless you want brown sunstone then persulfate or perchlorate might be better. Bryan - ----- Original Message ----- > Sounds like there is some room for color enhancements. Anyone ever hook a > sunstone up to a battery? Did Tim say there is a bunch of KMnO4 there? A > good oxidizer. 5 Cu^2+ + MnO4^- +8H^+ => Mn^2+ + 5Cu^3+ +4H2O. > > So many possibilities. > > Flint ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:50:47 -0600 From: "Michael Schmidt" Subject: Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:50:47 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C10EF1.64246AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Does anyone have any information on those French sand = concretions.........Gogottes?? I picked up a fantastic one in France, and I would like some detailed = locality, age and other scientific info to go with it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Michael - ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C10EF1.64246AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
Does anyone have any information on = those French=20 sand concretions.........Gogottes??
 
I picked up a fantastic one in France, = and I would=20 like some detailed locality, age and other scientific info to go with=20 it.
 
Any help would be = appreciated.
 
Thanks
 
Michael
- ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C10EF1.64246AE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:03:11 -0400 From: "Nathan A. Schachtman" Subject: Bancroft Area Guidebooks - --=====================_7665367==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Gary, I have my mineral book collection organized by author's name. Here are some of the entries for Sabina, which may be interesting or useful to you. Most of these guides are now out of print, and Sabina has been gradually preparing new versions of each guide. I am not sure whether the Bancroft volume is in print or not, but you can check with the GSC bookstore (gsc_bookstore@gsc.emr.ca). Sabina, "Some Rare Minerals of the Bancroft Area," 13 Min. Record 223 (1982) A. Sabina, Rocks & Minerals for the Collector: Hull-Maniwaki, Quebec; Ottawa-Peterborough, Ontario Misc. Report 41 (1987) A. Sabina, Rocks & Minerals for the Collector: Bancroft--Parry Sound Area and Southern Ontario; Misc. Report 39 (1986) A. Sabina, Rocks & Minerals for the Collector: Buckingham--Mont-Laurier--Grenville, Quebec; Hawkesbury--Ottawa, Ontario; Misc. Report 33 (1986) A. Sabina, Rock and Mineral Collecting in Canada: Vol. II, Ontario and Quebec; Geol. Survey Canada Misc. Rep. 8 (1964) A. Sabina, Rocks and Minerals for the Collector: Ottawa to North Bay, Ontario; Hull to Waltham, Ontario; Geological Survey of Canada Paper 70-50 (Ottawa 1971) Nathan At 12:33 PM 7/17/01 -0400, you wrote: >Thanks, >Would you provide the reference for the Sabina guidebook? > >Gary > > > > > > --=====================_11793663==_.ALT > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > > > Gary, > > > > The Diggings property is quite extensive and there will be mineral > > collecting there for many years to come. Perhaps not every pit is as > > productive as some, but you need not worry. > > > > As for other sites, yes, there are many. The Chamber of Commerce sells a > > collecting guide, put together by the local NRC geologist, Chris Fouts. > > There's also a very good guidebook by Sabina on the Bancroft area. If you > > like, I can give you the precise citation. It's available from the GSC > > bookstore, and it's almost always on sale at the Rockhound Gemboree, held > > in Bancroft. > > > > Nathan Schachtman > > > > At 10:36 AM 7/17/01 -0400, you wrote: > > >Hello, > > > > > >I am planning to spend two days just at the Bear Lake Diggings at > > >Bancroft, Canada. I know that the site > > >was recently featured in Rocks & Minerals (I have that issue). Is there > > >still plenty to find at the site. > > >Also, is there another site within a 30 minute drive of the Diggings that > > >is also good? > > > > > >Thanks, > > >Gary > > > > > > --=====================_11793663==_.ALT > > Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > > Gary,
> >
> > The Diggings property is quite extensive and there will be mineral > > collecting there for many years to come. Perhaps not every pit is as > > productive as some, but you need not worry.
> >
> > As for other sites, yes, there are many. The Chamber of Commerce sells a > > collecting guide, put together by the local NRC geologist, Chris Fouts. > > There's also a very good guidebook by Sabina on the Bancroft area. If you > > like, I can give you the precise citation. It's available from the GSC > > bookstore, and it's almost always on sale at the Rockhound Gemboree, held > > in Bancroft.
> >
> > Nathan Schachtman
> >
> > At 10:36 AM 7/17/01 -0400, you wrote:
> >
Hello,
> >
> > I am planning to spend two days just at the Bear Lake Diggings at > > Bancroft, Canada. I know that the site
> > was recently featured in Rocks & Minerals (I have that issue). Is > > there still plenty to find at the site.
> > Also, is there another site within a 30 minute drive of the Diggings that > > is also good?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gary

> > > > > > --=====================_11793663==_.ALT-- > > > > ################################################################# > > # Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing Alias: rockhounds@drizzle.com # > > # Web: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds/ # > > # Subscription Services: majordomo@drizzle.com # > > ################################################################# > > > >################################################################# ># Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing Alias: rockhounds@drizzle.com # ># Web: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds/ # ># Subscription Services: majordomo@drizzle.com # >################################################################# - --=====================_7665367==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Gary,

I have my mineral book collection organized by author's name.  Here are some of the entries for Sabina, which may be interesting or useful to you. Most of these guides are now out of print, and Sabina has been gradually preparing new versions of each guide. I am not sure whether the Bancroft volume is in print or not, but you can check with the GSC bookstore (gsc_bookstore@gsc.emr.ca).

Sabina, "Some Rare Minerals of the Bancroft Area," 13 Min. Record 223 (1982)

A. Sabina, Rocks & Minerals for the Collector: Hull-Maniwaki, Quebec; Ottawa-Peterborough, Ontario Misc. Report 41 (1987)

A. Sabina, Rocks & Minerals for the Collector: Bancroft--Parry Sound Area and Southern Ontario; Misc. Report 39 (1986)

A. Sabina, Rocks & Minerals for the Collector: Buckingham--Mont-Laurier--Grenville, Quebec; Hawkesbury--Ottawa, Ontario; Misc. Report 33 (1986)

A. Sabina, Rock and Mineral Collecting in Canada:  Vol. II, Ontario and Quebec; Geol. Survey Canada Misc. Rep. 8 (1964)

A. Sabina, Rocks and Minerals for the Collector:  Ottawa to North Bay, Ontario; Hull to Waltham, Ontario; Geological Survey of Canada Paper 70-50 (Ottawa 1971)

Nathan

At 12:33 PM 7/17/01 -0400, you wrote:
Thanks,
Would you provide the reference for the Sabina guidebook?

Gary


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> Gary,
>
> The Diggings property is quite extensive and there will be mineral
> collecting there for many years to come. Perhaps not every pit is as
> productive as some, but you need not worry.
>
> As for other sites, yes, there are many. The Chamber of Commerce sells a
> collecting guide, put together by the local NRC geologist, Chris Fouts.
> There's also a very good guidebook by Sabina on the Bancroft area. If you
> like, I can give you the precise citation. It's available from the GSC
> bookstore, and it's almost always on sale at the Rockhound Gemboree, held
> in Bancroft.
>
> Nathan Schachtman
>
> At 10:36 AM 7/17/01 -0400, you wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I am planning to spend two days just at the Bear Lake Diggings at
> >Bancroft, Canada. I know that the site
> >was recently featured in Rocks & Minerals (I have that issue). Is there
> >still plenty to find at the site.
> >Also, is there another site within a 30 minute drive of the Diggings that
> >is also good?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Gary
>
>
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> productive as some, but you need not worry.<br>
> <br>
> As for other sites, yes, there are many. The Chamber of Commerce sells a
> collecting guide, put together by the local NRC geologist, Chris Fouts.
> There's also a very good guidebook by Sabina on the Bancroft area. If you
> like, I can give you the precise citation. It's available from the GSC
> bookstore, and it's almost always on sale at the Rockhound Gemboree, held
> in Bancroft.<br>
> <br>
> Nathan Schachtman<br>
> <br>
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> there still plenty to find at the site.<br>
> Also, is there another site within a 30 minute drive of the Diggings that
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> <br>
> Thanks,<br>
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- --=====================_7665367==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 20:38:40 -0700 From: "Ed Bomke" Subject: Re: Mercury Let me second the recommendation of the book. After this posting, I checked out a copy from my local library (try before ya buy), and was very impressed by the wealth of information, and the considerable effort it took to visit the remote areas up here. The book includes a rating for the vast majority of the mines, giving "distance from your vehicle" and "difficulty of the climb" -- key information for someone like me. I decided to purchase a copy of the book, rather than say farewell when my borrowed copy becomes overdue... > As an aside, a few years later my friends and I split on good terms, them to > pursue the tunnels and me to pursue the minerals. All of us have done well > in the years following, none of us regretting our decisions. I love the > minerals and they still love the tunnels. They finally compiled all their > adventuring into a book back in 1997 called Discovering Washington's > Historic Mines Volume 1: The West Central Cascade Mountains through the > group name of Northwest Underground Exploration. Published by Oso Publishing > Company under ISBN 0-9647521-2-3. It makes a great read. See ya! ------------------------------ End of rockhounds-digest V1 #957 ******************************** ################################################################# # To subscribe or unsubscribe to the Rockhoundz List, send mail # # to with the following keys: # # subscribe rockhounds (or) unsubscribe rockhounds # # rockhounds@drizzle.com | http://callisto.golder.com/rockhoundz# #################################################################