From owner-rockhounds-digest@drizzle.com Sun Jun 17 12:24:14 2001 Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:49:00 -0800 From: rockhounds-digest Reply-To: rockhounds@drizzle.com To: rockhounds-digest@drizzle.com Subject: rockhounds-digest V1 #817 rockhounds-digest Saturday, March 3 2001 Volume 01 : Number 817 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:37:55 -0800 From: "Lanny R. Ream" Subject: Re: Earthquake Ron pretty well stated the basis of the answer to Brian's question. There are no "explosions" underground in an earthquake. However, any sharp movement of the ground or the buildings sitting on the ground impacts the air, and create sound waves. The sharper/stronger the movement and the closer you are to it the more intense the sound. When you are real close to the epicenter of a quake, the jolt is so strong that the sound waves generated are very loud and can be perceived as sounding like an explosion. Most of us are probably more familiar with the sounds of thunder. When a lightning bolt is a long ways away, we hear a rumble. The closer we get the more intense it becomes. If you are unfortunate enough (or maybe it's fortunate by some perspectives) to be very close, the sound of a lightning strike is more like that of a case of dynamite going off. In fact, it's the same for a case of dynamite going off. Close up, it's more like a "CRASH" or really massive intense "BANG!" As you get further way it becomes just a "boom." Lanny >Hello Brian and All: > >Not sure your question made it to the list, but, since no >one else attempted an answer to the explosion question yet, >I will though I lack an informed answer. I think it is not >an explosion at all that we sometimes hear. I have heard >sounds that *could be described as an explosion* associated >with seismic activity in my own home. No, I don't mean in >the bathroom either :~) > >Different sounds emanate from my home and surrounding homes >with different types of quakes. It seems the sounds may be >associated with the type of waves produced by the quake, or >at least the type of waves impacting a particular home. >This last quake, while gracious on the Pucker Scale, did not >produce nearly as much noise *from the structure* of my home >as the 3.2 in 94 did. Though there was far more noise from >stuff falling from shelves then in 94. Judging from the >sounds, the 94 quake lifted my house (foundation and all) on >one end, the foundation then dropped from under it, and the >house slammed, with great force onto the foundation. It did >indeed sound much like an explosion. As the wave continued >under the structure a second wave came and the sound >repeated. At some point the sound essentially stopped, but >the quake continued. I think once the waves traveled the >entire distance on my home the structure then began to >gyrate "in phase" or in "resonance" with the frequency of >the waves. Once resonance occurred the noise stopped and >the structure simply rolled with the flow. > >Anyone have more to offer? > > >Ravenwolf wrote: >> Does anyone know what causes the large explosions deep in the earth during >> an earthquake such as this? >> Anyone else have a report? >> Brian >-- >Regards, > >Ron Winter, Auburn, Washington. >http://www.stonetrails.com >mailto:Ron@stonetrails.com >In search of: The Mother of All Geodes! > >*Coprolite Happens* >Copyright © Circa 2001 Ron Winter >################################################################# ># Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing Alias: rockhounds@drizzle.com # ># Web: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds/ # ># Subscription Services: majordomo@drizzle.com # >################################################################# ********************************************* Lanny R. Ream - lanny@mineralnews.com Owner/Publisher - LR Ream Publishing Publisher of gem & mineral references and guides, Mineral News - printed and online, Mineral software: The Mineral Database and the Mineral-Periodical Index Visit our Web pages at http://www.mineralnews.com ****** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 15:37:09 EST From: Rocknlight@aol.com Subject: Metal roller shafts / Where to buy ? Trying to locate a company that sells 1/2 " and 1" metal shafts of good quality. Stainless steel or titanium shafts preferred.... But ANY shaft company names and phone number / www sites is OK. Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 15:49:31 -0500 From: Don Halterman Subject: Re: Metal roller shafts / Where to buy ? I'm not sure what kind of shafts you need, but try http://www.riogrande.com . They have excellent customer service, and sell a variety of goods for metal forming and lapidary work. I am not affiliated with them in any way, I have simply been a happy customer of theirs for 6 years. Don Rocknlight@aol.com wrote: > > Trying to locate a company that sells 1/2 " and 1" metal shafts of good > quality. > > Stainless steel or titanium shafts preferred.... But ANY shaft company names > and phone number / www sites is OK. > > Thanks > > ################################################################# > # Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing Alias: rockhounds@drizzle.com # > # Web: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds/ # > # Subscription Services: majordomo@drizzle.com # > ################################################################# ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 16:07:56 -0500 From: Hilton Freed Subject: remove ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:20:29 -0500 From: "J Bryan Kramer" Subject: Re: Metal roller shafts / Where to buy ? The first place we always try for generic machine parts is McMaster-Carr, they have a catalog that's about 4 inches thick but you can look at it on the web at www.mcmaster.com The have 10 or more pages of shafts, I just glanced at them and saw some type 440 SS. Type shaft in the search box when the page comes up. We do a lot of business with them and about 90% of orders are delivered the next day, they are very dependable. Bryan - ----- Original Message ----- > Trying to locate a company that sells 1/2 " and 1" metal shafts of good > quality. > > Stainless steel or titanium shafts preferred.... But ANY shaft company names > and phone number / www sites is OK. > > Thanks > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:38:28 -0500 From: Hilton Freed Subject: unsubscribe rockhounds hilton.freed@sas.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 15:58:14 -0700 From: "Peter J. Modreski" Subject: Re: Edmund's & other trivia... Hi, I'm just feeling in a lighthearted mood, so I wanted to comment on... Nathan's note about Edmund's closing (yes, that's too bad), included the remark: > The portable GM counter, normally $335, was there for half price. so this gave me an interesting minute or two, musing about what the heck a GM counter might be. I was actually disappointed when I think I figured it out, it must mean a Geiger-Mueller counter (more commonly known as just a Geiger counter); darn, it would have made a more interesting post, if I just remarked on how I had no clue what a GM counter must be, wondered perhaps if they made one for Fords too, or it marks each time you cross the Greenwich Meridian. And then in another post, from Ron Winter, we read, > White River Tree Farm > It's time to think about the WRTFarm again! Though it's a tad early for complete access. It wasn't till June 4 last year that I was able to access the entire Mainline road circuit there. ... Well, there's another good one. Here my first reaction was, why is somebody advertising a tree farm to rockhounds. And it's a little late for Xmas trees. But since Ron's signature line includes something about geodes, I guess maybe it's a geode-collecting location. And tho the message doesn't give any clue about where this is, his address is in Washington, so I guess it's there. I always find it amusing, that online collectors from CA-WA seem to be the worst for not giving much of a clue what state their collecting-site post is about--seem to figure that everyone will just KNOW that Busted Cactus Creek or Pretty Rock Hill is of course in California. And is it only my impression, or are there more than the average number of members to this mail group, from WA-OR? Maybe there are just more than the average number of posts about collecting sites in that area. Or is it some kind of Bill Gates-related thing that more rockhounds than average are online in that part of the country? I guess I can stop rambling now (before I antagonize half the list!), Cheers, Pete, from Denver ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 14:44:41 -0800 From: Gloria Hoover Subject: Hilton, think you want Hi Hilton, Think you want to address the email to majordomo@drizzle.com with the subject blank and the words unsubscribe youremailaddy Gloria Hilton Freed wrote: > ################################################################# > # Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing Alias: rockhounds@drizzle.com # > # Web: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds/ # > # Subscription Services: majordomo@drizzle.com # > ################################################################# - -- http://natures-emporium.com/ Jewelry, jade, quartz, decor items, bookends ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 16:00:32 -0800 (PST) From: Aaron Fox Subject: [none] Message-ID: <000e01c0a37f$13860c20$c691fea9@w2w8k0> From: "kentnorwood" To: Subject: Hawaii Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:12:51 -0800 Hi List, I'm thinking of going to Hawaii in the Fall. I would, of course, = have to see Kilauea, but have heard that the Big Island is not the place = to stay. Does anybody know a good travel agency website or have any = experience to share? Please contact me off-list at kentnorwood@msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 16:01:17 -0800 (PST) From: Aaron Fox Subject: [BOUNCE] Re: Earthquake Message-ID: <002101c0a39c$7b4c5680$0100a8c0@mshome.net> From: "Ravenwolf" To: Subject: Re: Earthquake Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 20:42:50 -0800 Hi Ron and list: While I did not hear an explosion at all in Maple Valley (about 30 miles north of my house in Graham), Raven said she heard two ear piercing explosions consecutively before the quake hit, and then followed shaking which through her out of her chair and bounced our house like a popcorn popper, making it impossible for her to get up off the spot on the floor where she fell. As for the quake in 94, we were at home and felt soft gentle rolls for a few seconds, and didn't knock anything off our shelves (although our dog Mollie started howling a few seconds before it happened, while in this bigger quake she was apparently unfazed.) Its interesting hearing the different experiences people experience depending on how far you are from the quake and the type of ground you are on. Brian Peace, Light and Blessings, (`*·.¸(`*·.¸¸.·*´)¸.·*´) «´¨`·. wolfie .`» (¸.·'´(¸.·'´'·.¸)`' ·. ¸) What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Winter" To: "Rockhound List" Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 1:44 PM Subject: Earthquake > Hello Brian and All: > > Not sure your question made it to the list, but, since no > one else attempted an answer to the explosion question yet, > I will though I lack an informed answer. I think it is not > an explosion at all that we sometimes hear. I have heard > sounds that *could be described as an explosion* associated > with seismic activity in my own home. No, I don't mean in > the bathroom either :~) > > Different sounds emanate from my home and surrounding homes > with different types of quakes. It seems the sounds may be > associated with the type of waves produced by the quake, or > at least the type of waves impacting a particular home. > This last quake, while gracious on the Pucker Scale, did not > produce nearly as much noise *from the structure* of my home > as the 3.2 in 94 did. Though there was far more noise from > stuff falling from shelves then in 94. Judging from the > sounds, the 94 quake lifted my house (foundation and all) on > one end, the foundation then dropped from under it, and the > house slammed, with great force onto the foundation. It did > indeed sound much like an explosion. As the wave continued > under the structure a second wave came and the sound > repeated. At some point the sound essentially stopped, but > the quake continued. I think once the waves traveled the > entire distance on my home the structure then began to > gyrate "in phase" or in "resonance" with the frequency of > the waves. Once resonance occurred the noise stopped and > the structure simply rolled with the flow. > > Anyone have more to offer? > > > Ravenwolf wrote: > > Does anyone know what causes the large explosions deep in the earth during > > an earthquake such as this? > > Anyone else have a report? > > Brian > -- > Regards, > > Ron Winter, Auburn, Washington. > http://www.stonetrails.com > mailto:Ron@stonetrails.com > In search of: The Mother of All Geodes! > > *Coprolite Happens* > Copyright © Circa 2001 Ron Winter > ################################################################# > # Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing Alias: rockhounds@drizzle.com # > # Web: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds/ # > # Subscription Services: majordomo@drizzle.com # > ################################################################# > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 16:02:39 -0800 (PST) From: Aaron Fox Subject: [BOUNCE] Mineralogy of Scotland From: Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 19:26:52 +1100 Subject: Mineralogy of Scotland To: geoliterarysociety@yahoogroups.com, eminerals@yahoogroups.com, micromounts@yahoogroups.com, rockhounds@yahoogroups.com, rockhounds@drizzle.com Hi all Matt Heddle's Mineralogy of Scotland seems to be a fairly scarce item. I understand that it was published after Heddle died in 1901 in two volumes. I found an old auction reference on the web: - --------------------------- Heddle, M[atthew] Forster. The Mineralogy of Scotland. 2 vols. lviii, 148; viii, 247, [1] pp. Ed. by J.G. Goodchild. Illus. with 106 plates, incl. frontispieces, plus maps & engravings in the text. 9-3/4x6, original green cloth, spines lettered in gilt. First Edition. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1901. Sinkankas 2836 - - "The only complete and still unsuperseded description of the minerals of Scotland." A little rubbing & wear to corners & spine ends; a few hinges cracking within, residue or adhesion damage from removed bookplates, else very good. - --------------------------- The reason for this post is that I have just acquired a full set of the plates as a separate set (ie: without the book) and I was wondering if anyone can shed any light as to how/when this may have been issued/published. The plates are in good condition with only a small number having a few rust spots on them. They are enclosed in cloth backed paper in a half board, half green cloth cover, similar to a book cover, and tied using cotton tape. There is no legend or inscription on the outside, only a label pasted on the inside cover inscribed "PLATES by J.G. Goodchild from MINERALOGY of SCOTLAND by Dr. Heddle" in purplish blue ink. I would also be interested in knowing what others may think the value may be. Regards Steve http://www.crocoite.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 16:03:20 -0800 (PST) From: Aaron Fox Subject: [BOUNCE] Re: Mineralogy of Scotland Message-ID: <009301c0a3d7$32b9afe0$c4ac6dc2@xs4all.nl> From: "Paul Tambuyser" To: , , , , Subject: Re: [GeoliterarySociety] Mineralogy of Scotland Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:41:31 +0100 Hi Steve, I have the following information in my antiquarian-mineralogy-database: HEDDLE, Matthew Forster The Mineralogy of Scotland. Edinburgh, David Douglas, 1901 8vo. 1st ed. 2 volumes. I: pp. lviii, 148, li; II: pp. viii, 247, lii-ciii, with 103 engraved plates of crystal drawings. a 2nd ed (1923-1924), 2 volumes, 8vo, edited by J.G. Goodchild. The work contains lists of minerals, Scottish pseudomorphs, detailed mineralogy, and locality information. the book is not as rare as you might think. I have references of 7 copies of the work offered between 1993 and present. The price of the complete book varies somewhere between $ 600.- and 1100.- for a fine copy. Kind regards, Paul Tambuyser Mineralogy Club of Antwerp, Belgium e-mail: info@minerant.org Homepage: http://www.minerant.org/ Virtual Quarry: http://www.minerant.org/vq.html ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 16:05:43 -0800 From: "Dawn M. Fredricks" Subject: Bill Gates-related thing If only we were all as rich as Bill Gates, we could have all the rocks we want! dawnf@qwest.net Portland Oregon - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter J. Modreski" > > And is it only my impression, or are there more than the average number of > members to this mail group, from WA-OR? Maybe there are just more than the > average number of posts about collecting sites in that area. Or is it some > kind of Bill Gates-related thing that more rockhounds than average are > online in that part of the country? > > I guess I can stop rambling now (before I antagonize half the list!), > > Cheers, Pete, from Denver > > > ################################################################# > # Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing Alias: rockhounds@drizzle.com # > # Web: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds/ # > # Subscription Services: majordomo@drizzle.com # > ################################################################# > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 16:07:09 -0800 From: "Dawn M. Fredricks" Subject: Re: Any Cowlitz River list members Ron, What is your definition of close? dawnf@qwest.net - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Winter" To: "Rockhound List" Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 10:55 AM Subject: Any Cowlitz River list members > Greetings: > > Anyone on the list live close to the Cowlitz River, > Washington State? > -- > Regards, > > Ron Winter, Auburn, Washington. > http://www.stonetrails.com > mailto:Ron@stonetrails.com > In search of: The Mother of All Geodes! > > *Coprolite Happens* > Copyright © Circa 2001 Ron Winter > ################################################################# > # Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing Alias: rockhounds@drizzle.com # > # Web: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds/ # > # Subscription Services: majordomo@drizzle.com # > ################################################################# > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 16:21:50 -0800 From: "Dawn M. Fredricks" Subject: Re: March 3 Rockhounds, Earthquake We felt it down here in Portland. I work on Swan Island which is a "landfill". We have always joked about what would happen to the "island" during the big one. I work on the second floor and we vacated the building during the quake. No damage, but it was the longest one I had been through. They estimated it to be around 4.7 here in Portland. My brother lives in downtown Seattle, you can look out his window and see Pike Place Market. Everything he owned was on the floor, except for his computer monitor, he said it was about a 1/4" from going off the desk. My husband was up working in Roy Washington which is very close to the epicenter. He was in a mobile home "park model" on a dealers lot, so the thing wasn't very secure and still had the wheels under it. He said it bounce up and down quite a bit. I did feel one after shock, the one the next morning at 7:23 only because I was in the shower and the shower rack started swinging back and forth. It was quite an event! dawnf@qwest.net - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Winter" > Greetings: > EARTHQUAKE > About 10:55 this morning was sending list email when t ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 20:51:21 -0800 From: Ron Winter Subject: Re: Any Cowlitz River list members Hello Dawn: Haven't heard from you in awhile, hope all is well. I'm looking for someone who knows the Cowlitz River well enough (perhaps passing a portion of it on daily treks) to say if it is currently considered *lower than normal* for this time of year. "Dawn M. Fredricks" wrote: > Ron, > What is your definition of close? - -- Regards, Ron Winter, Auburn, Washington. http://www.stonetrails.com mailto:Ron@stonetrails.com In search of: The Mother of All Geodes! *Coprolite Happens* Copyright © Circa 2001 Ron Winter ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 22:09:51 -0800 From: Teresa Masters Subject: Re: Edmund's & other trivia...YAK Dear Pete from Denver, (hope Aaron doesn't get on me for this), Denver where?, I think quite some time ago, there was a suggestion to include locality in the signature so out world wide membership could have a clue. I too initially wondered where WRTFarm was, but then I have Ron geographically located and knew it was more than a weekend trip for me, although two drivers in one vehicle may make it. Of course things roll off of our fingers so easily, we forget to clearly identify our areas. Now some are giving latitude and longitude, I am too long out of school to be able to quickly process that data. GPS quadrants are quite precise, if one owns such a device, so far i don't. Just think sometime in the future an archeologist finds these strange equations and wonders just what this strange society of communication via numbers was really like. Teresa ------------------------------ End of rockhounds-digest V1 #817 ******************************** ################################################################# # To subscribe or unsubscribe to the Rockhoundz List, send mail # # to with the following keys: # # subscribe rockhounds (or) unsubscribe rockhounds # # rockhounds@drizzle.com | http://callisto.golder.com/rockhoundz# #################################################################