From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 1 11:45:29 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Christian Auer) Date: Tue Jul 1 10:45:29 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Andara mining region on strahlen.org References: <20030630215205.29375.qmail@web12708.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002301c33ff8$021f2260$0df198d4@Auerchri> Hi Frank, Great website and professional information. I just couldn`t open the underground pictures (but had to drink a "Schwarzer Steiger") afterwards :-) Chris Auer ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: http://www.wulfenite.com for the wulfenite enthusiast http://www.minerlamps.com for the mining lamp collector ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ----- Original Message ----- From: "you won't know" To: Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 11:52 PM Subject: [Rockhounds] Andara mining region on strahlen.org > Hi all, > > I visited the Andara mining region, Picos d'Europe, > Spain, the last few days. Some 25 mines underground, > and on the dumps there with lots of nice Hemimorphit, > Hydrozinkit etc. > > Info and some pics are on http://www.strahlen.org/ > > Cheers! > Frank > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Jul 4 14:50:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (you won't know) Date: Fri Jul 4 13:50:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Andara mining region on strahlen.org In-Reply-To: <002301c33ff8$021f2260$0df198d4@Auerchri> Message-ID: <20030704204928.74591.qmail@web12708.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Chris, Live from an internet cafe in Lissabon/Lisboa :-) (i~t´s difficult typing on a spanish keyboard, so I´ll keep it short... Behind the ´schwarzer steiger´is a GAG-members only part, sorry... But there are a lot of underground pics in the public-section! And... I´m busy now uploading a lot of pics of my rockhounding holiday here in Spain (Berbes and Andara) and Portugal from the internet cafe here drinking a nice portwine... jalouse? you should be ;-)) I was at the Michuel Vacas mine yesterday and found really great Libethenit-xls there See all on www.strahlen.org ! http://www.strahlen.org/ http://www.strahlen.org/vp/andara/ cheers! Frank --- Christian Auer wrote: > Hi Frank, > Great website and professional information. > I just couldn`t open the underground pictures (but > had to drink a "Schwarzer > Steiger") afterwards :-) > > Chris Auer > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > http://www.wulfenite.com for the wulfenite > enthusiast > http://www.minerlamps.com for the mining lamp > collector > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "you won't know" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 11:52 PM > Subject: [Rockhounds] Andara mining region on > strahlen.org > > > > Hi all, > > > > I visited the Andara mining region, Picos > d'Europe, > > Spain, the last few days. Some 25 mines > underground, > > and on the dumps there with lots of nice > Hemimorphit, > > Hydrozinkit etc. > > > > Info and some pics are on http://www.strahlen.org/ > > > > Cheers! > > Frank > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > > Subscription Services: > > > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Jul 5 14:55:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Catherine Gaber) Date: Sat Jul 5 13:55:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] agate pass In-Reply-To: <3EFF87E1.6C18@Tomaszewski.net> Message-ID: <749E4EDC-AA7B-11D7-8B48-000A27A8D0F0@his.com> Is there any agate to be found in Agate Pass, Kitsap Co., Washington? If so, please give directions. Thanks, Cathy Gaber From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Jul 5 14:55:36 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Sat Jul 5 13:55:36 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Fulgurites Message-ID: Hi! I have found an amazing amount of non-typical fulgurites (kind of ceramic and seemingly more porous than others I have seen, without clearly obvious glass but definitely fused and tubelike). These were found in Florida, in three distinct locations but all similar. I am offering several for sale at http://www.insideoutart.net/stargrowls/ because it didn't take long for me to comprehend the value these can hold for pagans and other metaphysical applications. But I am also a scientist, an ecologist, and I am wondering if these pieces might represent a few tremendous lightning strikes in the same area? I know the soil types in the areas they were found are all the same, but as many as I have found exhibiting similar density and oxidation in that close proximity is really puzzling to me. Also, may of the pieces seem to represent terminal ends of the fulgurites - that is, they are open on only one end and taper or come abruptly to a hollow, closed point. Others are multiple tubes or sections of tubes fused together. Any thoughts on the formation? You can see pictures at the above link, but I can provide lots more. From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Jul 5 15:17:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Pete Richards) Date: Sat Jul 5 14:17:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Fulgurites In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Based on what your website shows, I don't think those are fulgarites. I think they are zones of cementation of the local sediment by iron oxides, presumably precipitated by a change in Eh that converted Fe++ to much less soluble Fe+++ which then precipitated. I can't offer an exact mechanism, but the lack of melting discourages the interpretation that they are fulgarites. Pete Richards >Hi! >I have found an amazing amount of non-typical fulgurites (kind of ceramic and seemingly more porous than others I have seen, without clearly obvious glass but definitely fused and tubelike). These were found in Florida, in three distinct locations but all similar. I am offering several for sale at >http://www.insideoutart.net/stargrowls/ >because it didn't take long for me to comprehend the value these can hold for pagans and other metaphysical applications. But I am also a scientist, an ecologist, and I am wondering if these pieces might represent a few tremendous lightning strikes in the same area? I know the soil types in the areas they were found are all the same, but as many as I have found exhibiting similar density and oxidation in that close proximity is really puzzling to me. Also, may of the pieces seem to represent terminal ends of the fulgurites - that is, they are open on only one end and taper or come abruptly to a hollow, closed point. Others are multiple tubes or sections of tubes fused together. >Any thoughts on the formation? You can see pictures at the above link, but I can provide lots more. > >_______________________________________________ >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >Subscription Services: >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds -------------------------------------------------------------------- R. Peter Richards rpr@mail.heidelberg.edu Mineral collector Crystallographer SHAPE for the Macintosh From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Jul 5 15:48:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Sat Jul 5 14:48:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] agate pass Message-ID: <1d5.d3e3d2f.2c38a185@aol.com> Only a rare pebble once in a while. It's name comes from the beauty of the=20 area rather than actually having agates. =20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0o=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0o =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0o =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0o =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0o=20 =B7.=B8=B8.=B8><(((((=BA> =A0=A0Rich =A0=A0=B7.=B8=B8.=B8><(((((=BA>=20 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Jul 5 17:24:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Gary Brown) Date: Sat Jul 5 16:24:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Fulgurites In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001401c3434c$8ff242a0$6501a8c0@moose> I agree. These look very similar to the "bog iron" found in many parts of New Jersey. I remember collecting these as a kid from stream beds in Middletown, NJ. Amazing things, some of 'em. Looked just like drain pipes made out of coarsely cemented sandstone, stained with iron. GcB www.catspaw-minerals.com Home of MasMils/PLUS Mine Locating CD > -----Original Message----- > From: rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com > [mailto:rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com] On Behalf Of Pete Richards > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 4:17 PM > To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com > Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Fulgurites > > > Based on what your website shows, I don't think those are > fulgarites. I think they are zones of cementation of the > local sediment by iron oxides,.... From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Jul 5 20:19:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Sat Jul 5 19:19:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Fulgurites Message-ID: Saturday 7/5/03 These items look uncommonly like what I would call "ironstone formations". I came across somewhat similar objects fourthy or so years ago in England in an unconsolidated sand deposit. The ones I have are more irregular in shape. In the same deposit I found balls of sand cemented with iron sulphide (probably marcassite). It is possible that your samples are not iron oxide but really iron sulphide, try grinding part of the surface off carefully and inspect it under a lens. Some more information about the exact nature of the site where your items were would be appreciated. Jim Groves. From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sun Jul 6 17:15:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Aaron Fox) Date: Sun Jul 6 16:15:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Rockhound in South Dakota (fwd) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 12:32:20 -0500 From: Mike & Shirleen Fugitt To: afox@drizzle.com Subject: Rockhound in South Dakota Aaron, I want to start doing a little searching for Agates in my home state of South Dakota beginning next week in a trip to the Black Hills for several days. Can you tell me where I can find resources which will serve as a jumping off point for this new ocassional hobby. I am currently reading the book Fairburn Agate - Gem of South Dakota by Roger Clark. Might your mailing list be of some assistance to me. Thanks, Mike Fugitt, Pierre, SD From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sun Jul 6 18:23:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Sun Jul 6 17:23:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] ROCK BOOKS Message-ID: <183.1d9f8830.2c3a1747@aol.com> Try a search for "Gem Trails of South Dakota" and "Rockhounding South Dakota." Also, go here and look at the pictures. http://csd.unl.edu/csd/agate-general-files/agateres.html Grant --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 7 10:09:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Tim Fisher) Date: Mon Jul 7 09:09:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] AD: Online Access & CD of Oregon/Washington rock dig locations In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.9.2.20030629114043.01bef3e0@mail.spiritone.com> Message-ID: <6.0.0.9.2.20030707090728.01c0a478@mail.spiritone.com> Rock Dig Locations CD: The CD is $20.00 which includes S&H in the continental US, and contains all the rock digs I have visited complete with 7.5' topo maps showing the exact dig locations, directions, and examples of the material. It also contains files for locating each site in GIS applications such as ARCVIEW and a waypoint list for downloading to a GPS unit. At the current time there are 24 sites in Oregon and 5 sites in Washington on the CD. At the present time there are 251 individual dig site coordinates on the maps and in the GPS file. Online Access: I have added tons of maps to my website for those of you familiar with OreRockOn. The online information contains all the rock digs I have visited complete with topo maps, directions, and examples of the material. Access is $10.00 for ONE YEAR; this should give you plenty of time to copy or download what you need. Go here to order: http://orerockon.com/CD.htm Tim Fisher Ore-ROCK-On! mailto:tim@OreRockOn.com Web Site: http://OreRockOn.com From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 7 11:06:09 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Ron) Date: Mon Jul 7 10:06:09 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: e-bay items received References: <3.0.1.32.20030628095446.00e6cd88@popmail.libero.it> Message-ID: Hi Alessandro, I received the minerals below, they arrived safely and they all look great. I've left positive feedback and am looking foward to buying more minerals. Regards, Ron KUTNOHORITE from Italy -- au03-51 VESUVIANITE from Vesuvio, Italu - tcs-27 PHYLIPSITE NEPHELINA from Italy -- au03-57 From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 7 12:19:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Rocks) Date: Mon Jul 7 11:19:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: e-bay items received In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.20030628095446.00e6cd88@popmail.libero.it> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20030707111728.00dad8b8@pop.ucla.edu> Ron you sent this to the wrong person. MD At 01:19 PM 7/7/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Alessandro, > >I received the minerals below, they arrived safely and they all look great. > >I've left positive feedback and am looking foward to buying more minerals. > >Regards, >Ron > >KUTNOHORITE from Italy -- au03-51 > >VESUVIANITE from Vesuvio, Italu - tcs-27 > >PHYLIPSITE NEPHELINA from Italy -- au03-57 >_______________________________________________ >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >Subscription Services: >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 7 12:44:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Rocks) Date: Mon Jul 7 11:44:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: e-bay items received In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.20030628095446.00e6cd88@popmail.libero.it> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20030707114255.00df5d80@pop.ucla.edu> Ron, You sent this to the wrong person. MD At 01:19 PM 7/7/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Alessandro, > >I received the minerals below, they arrived safely and they all look great. > >I've left positive feedback and am looking foward to buying more minerals. > >Regards, >Ron > >KUTNOHORITE from Italy -- au03-51 > >VESUVIANITE from Vesuvio, Italu - tcs-27 > >PHYLIPSITE NEPHELINA from Italy -- au03-57 >_______________________________________________ >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >Subscription Services: >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 7 13:21:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Ron) Date: Mon Jul 7 12:21:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: e-bay items received References: <3.0.1.32.20030628095446.00e6cd88@popmail.libero.it> Message-ID: Oh Boy, I wasn't paying attention to the address I sent this to. I apologize to the group. -Ron Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: e-bay items received > Hi Alessandro, > > I received the minerals below, they arrived safely and they all look great. > > I've left positive feedback and am looking foward to buying more minerals. > > Regards, > Ron > > KUTNOHORITE from Italy -- au03-51 > > VESUVIANITE from Vesuvio, Italu - tcs-27 > > PHYLIPSITE NEPHELINA from Italy -- au03-57 > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 7 14:44:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Mon Jul 7 13:44:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: e-bay items received Message-ID: From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 7 18:49:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Lawrence Bull) Date: Mon Jul 7 17:49:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Fwd: Fw: God Bless Message-ID: >From: "mary kelly" >To: "Amy Whalen" ,"Amanda" >,"Amy DeWall" ,"Gene" >,"Glenna" ,"Kathy Erickson" >,"Bush, Julie Kaye" ,"Larry >Bull" ,"Paul Erickson" >Subject: Fw: God Bless >Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 09:31:23 -0400 > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Gene Gray >To: Mary Jane Schreiber ; Michelle Wildey ; Deanie Woods ; Kim Addicott ; >Joe Byers ; Chris Johnson ; mary kelly ; Shellie Leporie ; Debbie Marino >Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:09 AM >Subject: God Bless > > >"I picked you."... > > > > My instructions were to send this to four people that I wanted >God To bless and > I picked you as one. Please pass this to people you want to be >blessed. > > This prayer is powerful and there is nothing attached, please do >not break > this pattern, prayer is one of the best gifts we receive. > There is no cost but a lot of rewards, let's continue to pray >for one another. > God bless and have a nice day! > > > > Creator God, I ask you to bless my friends, relatives and > email buddies reading this right now. > Show them a new revelation of your love and power. > Holy spirit, I ask you to minister to their spirit at this very >moment. > Where there is pain, give them your peace and mercy. > Where there is self-doubt, release a renewed confidence through >your grace, > In Jesus' precious name. Amen." > > > > (I know I picked more than four, and you can, too.) > > > > >Gene G. Gray >The Shadowrider >Have a nice day. > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 7 19:37:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Dave Guin) Date: Mon Jul 7 18:37:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Fwd: Fw: God Bless References: Message-ID: <3F0A202F.8030903@earthlink.net> Lawrence Bull wrote: >> "I picked you."... > *snip* How wonderfully ethnocentric of you. Peace, dave P.S. widgiemoolthalite From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 7 19:52:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Gary Brown) Date: Mon Jul 7 18:52:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Fwd: Fw: God Bless In-Reply-To: <3F0A202F.8030903@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <009b01c344f3$9db40bf0$6501a8c0@moose> Naw... "theocentric" GcB (Oh no... A non-rockhound digression string in the making. Arrrrrggggghhhhh....) > -----Original Message----- > From: rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com > [mailto:rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com] On Behalf Of Dave Guin > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 8:37 PM > To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com > Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Fwd: Fw: God Bless > > > Lawrence Bull wrote: > > >> "I picked you."... > > > *snip* > > How wonderfully ethnocentric of you. > > Peace, > dave > > P.S. widgiemoolthalite From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 7 20:28:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Mon Jul 7 19:28:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Fwd: Fw: God Bless Message-ID: <12e.2d9f74fb.2c3b85ff@aol.com> In a message dated 7/7/03 5:50:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, llbull@hotmail.com writes: > > > I picked you as one. No, you just forwarded it to a list for rockhounds. If I was interested in email like that I would subscribe to a "Praise the Lord" list. You probably have a good heart but I'm not sure about your judgement. Grant --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 7 20:35:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (mysfit) Date: Mon Jul 7 19:35:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Fwd: Fw: God Bless In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20030707203405.00b185e8@pop.mindspring.com> I didn't think chain letters were permitted...this is not an appropriate use of this list or it's members At 12:48 AM 7/8/2003 +0000, you wrote: >>From: "mary kelly" >>To: "Amy Whalen" ,"Amanda" >>,"Amy DeWall" ,"Gene" >>,"Glenna" ,"Kathy Erickson" >>,"Bush, Julie Kaye" ,"Larry >>Bull" ,"Paul Erickson" >>Subject: Fw: God Bless >>Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 09:31:23 -0400 >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: Gene Gray >>To: Mary Jane Schreiber ; Michelle Wildey ; Deanie Woods ; Kim Addicott ; >>Joe Byers ; Chris Johnson ; mary kelly ; Shellie Leporie ; Debbie Marino >>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:09 AM >>Subject: God Bless >> >> >>"I picked you."... >> >> >> >> My instructions were to send this to four people that I wanted >> God To bless and >> I picked you as one. Please pass this to people you want to be >> blessed. >> >> This prayer is powerful and there is nothing attached, please >> do not break >> this pattern, prayer is one of the best gifts we receive. >> There is no cost but a lot of rewards, let's continue to pray >> for one another. >> God bless and have a nice day! >> >> >> >> Creator God, I ask you to bless my friends, relatives and >> email buddies reading this right now. >> Show them a new revelation of your love and power. >> Holy spirit, I ask you to minister to their spirit at this >> very moment. >> Where there is pain, give them your peace and mercy. >> Where there is self-doubt, release a renewed confidence >> through your grace, >> In Jesus' precious name. Amen." >> >> >> >> (I know I picked more than four, and you can, too.) >> >> >> >> >>Gene G. Gray >>The Shadowrider >>Have a nice day. >> >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>Do you Yahoo!? >>SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > >_________________________________________________________________ >Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > >_______________________________________________ >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >Subscription Services: >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 7 21:09:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Aaron Fox) Date: Mon Jul 7 20:09:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Fwd: Fw: God Bless In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20030707203405.00b185e8@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: Agreed. Please do not forward or circulate these types of postings to the Rockhounds list. Thank you. --The Management > I didn't think chain letters were permitted...this is not an appropriate > use of this list or it's members > > > At 12:48 AM 7/8/2003 +0000, you wrote: > > > > >>From: "mary kelly" > >>To: "Amy Whalen" ,"Amanda" > >>,"Amy DeWall" ,"Gene" > >>,"Glenna" ,"Kathy Erickson" > >>,"Bush, Julie Kaye" ,"Larry > >>Bull" ,"Paul Erickson" > >>Subject: Fw: God Bless > >>Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 09:31:23 -0400 > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Gene Gray > >>To: Mary Jane Schreiber ; Michelle Wildey ; Deanie Woods ; Kim Addicott ; > >>Joe Byers ; Chris Johnson ; mary kelly ; Shellie Leporie ; Debbie Marino > >>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:09 AM > >>Subject: God Bless > >> > >> > >>"I picked you."... > >> > >> > >> > >> My instructions were to send this to four people that I wanted > >> God To bless and > >> I picked you as one. Please pass this to people you want to be > >> blessed. > >> > >> This prayer is powerful and there is nothing attached, please > >> do not break > >> this pattern, prayer is one of the best gifts we receive. > >> There is no cost but a lot of rewards, let's continue to pray > >> for one another. > >> God bless and have a nice day! > >> > >> > >> > >> Creator God, I ask you to bless my friends, relatives and > >> email buddies reading this right now. > >> Show them a new revelation of your love and power. > >> Holy spirit, I ask you to minister to their spirit at this > >> very moment. > >> Where there is pain, give them your peace and mercy. > >> Where there is self-doubt, release a renewed confidence > >> through your grace, > >> In Jesus' precious name. Amen." > >> > >> > >> > >> (I know I picked more than four, and you can, too.) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Gene G. Gray > >>The Shadowrider > >>Have a nice day. > >> > >> > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>Do you Yahoo!? > >>SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > >Subscription Services: > >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > -- afox at drizzle dot com || http://www.drizzle.com/~afox "You can fix anything with a big enough hammer and a lot of duct tape" From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 7 21:42:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Mon Jul 7 20:42:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Fulgurites In-Reply-To: <20030708010003.27593.72831.Mailman@bubbleator.drizzle.com> References: <20030708010003.27593.72831.Mailman@bubbleator.drizzle.com> Message-ID: Earlier that day: >CC: Jg81638@aol.com Reply-To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Saturday 7/5/03 These items look uncommonly like what I would call "ironstone formations". etc... Thanks, Jim Groves and everyone else who resonded on this issue. I'm finding the alternatives nearly as fascinating as my original diagnosis of fulgurites. Regarding the earlier notion of changes in Eh reducing Fe to a less soluble form - I find it interesting and very possible, except that the duration of inundation in the sand substrate I found these in (at less than a few inches below the surface, often at the surface once vegetation was moved aside)is only a few months of the year, at all other times of the year the water table is well below (1-3ft) that these items were found in. My first response as fulgurites was because I have witnessed more than one lightning strike in the vicinity, and the pine trees that remain tell the story of numerous wildfires (Florida, the lightning capital of the world). In addition, most of the pieces are distincly hollow, and in cross-section they appear to be more dense along the interior and less fused (more granular and sandy) towards the exterior. I don't find the hydric soil types in this area which would usually indicate inundation and reduction, to me. The soils are classified locally as "Eau Gallie and Myakka Sands" with possible hydric inclusions. I am not aware of the presence of a high concentration of Fe anywhere in the substrate or the water (this is southwest FL) but sulfur seems a possibility. There is also a seasonal abundance of tannin-tea (oak leaves saturated in water) during June-July, otherwise saw palmetto and slash-pine dominate the very loose sandy substrate. No rock strata is present, however, hardpan and aquifer comfining clay layers may be encountered within 5-10 feet of the surface. If the formations are a by-product of historic reduction, then my file of historic conditions for the site is way off. The surface water table is nearly 1-3 ft below the surface at the site, but emerges as a seasonally flooded N-S marsh about 1000ft to the west. Its a neat puzzle. I'll try to get more photos posted and leave a link. Thanks to all who responded on this. From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 8 03:41:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Axel Emmermann) Date: Tue Jul 8 02:41:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Fwd: Fw: God Bless References: Message-ID: <002401c34535$70fb3380$769d77d5@pandora.be> > >"I picked you."... Since you turned to a rock collectors discussion list, I assume you seek guidance? I cannot help or advise you in spiritual matters but let me offer a few suggestions that, should you develop an interest in mineral collecting, may allow you to find a balance between the material world and spiritual world: Pickeringite: what you didteringite me Godlevskite: sorry, my Russian is somewhat rusty. Angelite: trivial name for anhydrite but still worth collecting Angel-wing calcite : collect two and get a free do-it-yourself ascension Sinnerite: a mineral that somehow got off the straight and narrow Celestite: Heavenly mineral... Hopeite: alas; there is no faithite Loveringite : thy neighbouringite Gatehouseite: as in "Pearly Gatehouseite". There may be other... Serious religious people: please don't take offense. There's nothing wrong with you or your beliefs. Axel From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 8 05:56:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Tue Jul 8 04:56:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Fulgurites Message-ID: <200307081155.h68Bta2a014247@bubbleator.drizzle.com> > Thanks, Jim Groves and everyone else who resonded on this issue. I'm finding > the alternatives nearly as fascinating as my original diagnosis of fulgurites. > Regarding the earlier notion of changes in Eh reducing Fe to a less soluble form > - I find it interesting and very possible, except that the duration of > inundation in the sand substrate I found these in (at less than a few inches > below the surface, often at the surface once vegetation was moved aside)is only > a few months of the year, at all other times of the year the water table is well > below (1-3ft) that these items were found in. Did you take into account the effect of the vegetation, considering that vegetation provides moisture, oxalic and fulvic acids, among others, as well as other by-products of metabolism and decay? What about the detritus of insects that live among the vegetation? You need to look at the entire microenvironment, and how everything relates to everything else in a cyclic environment. "It's not so much the paragenesis; look at the relationships. The relationships between components are the important factor. Things are interesting only in regard to their relationships with everything else." -- Dr. Paul B. Moore, August 2002 From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 8 09:34:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Ronnie Van Dommelen) Date: Tue Jul 8 08:34:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Springfield MA Show Message-ID: <3F0AE4DD.7080900@dal.ca> Hi All, Does anyone know if Superb Minerals attends the Springfield, MA show? I just visited their website but it is "Under Construction". Thanks, Ronnie Van Dommelen From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 8 10:58:03 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (liz fodi) Date: Tue Jul 8 09:58:03 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Springfield MA Show References: <3F0AE4DD.7080900@dal.ca> Message-ID: <3F0AF8DB.8B475246@utoronto.ca> Have every year I've been there. Check Marty Zinn's site to see if there is a listing. Liz Ronnie Van Dommelen wrote: > > Hi All, > > Does anyone know if Superb Minerals attends the Springfield, MA show? I > just visited their website but it is "Under Construction". > > Thanks, > Ronnie Van Dommelen > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 8 14:53:17 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Mike Messenger) Date: Tue Jul 8 13:53:17 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Wyoming/Utah trip suggestions Message-ID: <040096001FE72E409D695C2D27A6A1C901498D@FILEFISH.nwifc.wa.gov> =20 I would like to thank all those that replied to my initial posting asking for suggestions on rock hunting areas in western Wyoming and Northern Utah. Our vacation was great. We were able visit many historical sites and some interesting geological features. =20 Unfortunately I did not get a lot of rock hounding in. We had a bit of rain while we where there and that made any travel off-road a dangerous proposition for our mini-van. I decided to mostly stick to paved or well graveled roads so that removed a lot of areas from consideration. I did manage a short stop east of Oregon Buttes on the Tri - Territory road for some palm wood before the rain started. Me and my son where able to pick up a couple of fist size pieces and many smaller ones in about a half hour of walking around. Much to my sons and daughters delight we also found a Horned lizard that he was able to catch and inspect for awhile. We also wanted to go to one of the Quarries around Kemmerer and dig for fish fossils but the rain the night before made the roads to the quarries impassable to our van. We did get to visit the Fossil Butte National Monument and saw many beautifully preserved fish, reptiles and other fossils. The detail of the preservation is amazing. On our way out of Wyoming and into Utah I wanted to run down to the Wamsutter area and look for turritella agate but the road conditions where still marginal and the road to the top of the ridge looked a little steep so we headed for Utah. On the way I did make another quick side trip to the Cedar Mountains to look for some agate and jasper. The gravel/dirt road to this site had dried out enough to make the trip possible. We only stayed at this site for about an hour but I was able to pick up a backpack full of various agates, jaspers and what I think is zebra flint. While in Utah we visited Dinosaur National Monument , Timpanogos Cave National Monument and then headed back to Washington. On the way back I made one quick stop at Glass butte in Oregon and picked up a sack full of gold sheen obsidian. =20 =20 I plan on visiting the Wyoming/Utah region again on a rock hunting only trip sometime in the near future. I will keep all suggestions that people sent in and hopefully will be able to get to more of them next time. I will defiantly bring my 4X4 truck so road conditions should not be as big an issue. =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 8 14:53:35 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Lawrence Rush) Date: Tue Jul 8 13:53:35 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Springfield MA Show References: <3F0AE4DD.7080900@dal.ca> <3F0AF8DB.8B475246@utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <002001c34593$08bfc340$f6b05a0c@fekib> ----- Original Message ----- From: liz fodi To: Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Springfield MA Show > Have every year I've been there. > Check Marty Zinn's site to see if there is a listing. > > Liz > > Ronnie Van Dommelen wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > Does anyone know if Superb Minerals attends the Springfield, MA show? I > > just visited their website but it is "Under Construction". > > > > Thanks, > > Ronnie Van Dommelen > > > > _______________________________________________ Superb minerals, from India, is listed as an attending dealer on the most recent flyer for the show. Larry Rush From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 8 15:17:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kris Murray) Date: Tue Jul 8 14:17:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] AD: Online Access & CD of Oregon/Washington rock dig locations In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.9.2.20030707090728.01c0a478@mail.spiritone.com> Message-ID: <66C7DAD4-B189-11D7-AE90-000393A96092@mac.com> sorry to hear bandwidth and stuff was bogging you down, i found out the hard way the other day when i tried to access the then free link you sent me to blue obsidian in davis creek, alas i dont have the loot, but i do hope you the best in recouping some of your costs! Respectfully KM On Monday, July 7, 2003, at 09:08 AM, Tim Fisher wrote: > Rock Dig Locations CD: The CD is $20.00 which includes S&H in the > continental US, and contains all the rock digs I have visited complete > with 7.5' topo maps showing the exact dig locations, directions, and > examples of the material. It also contains files for locating each > site in GIS applications such as ARCVIEW and a waypoint list for > downloading to a GPS unit. At the current time there are 24 sites in > Oregon and 5 sites in Washington on the CD. At the present time there > are 251 individual dig site coordinates on the maps and in the GPS > file. From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 8 15:27:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Mike Messenger) Date: Tue Jul 8 14:27:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Tenino Washington Rock show announcment Message-ID: <040096001FE72E409D695C2D27A6A1C901498E@FILEFISH.nwifc.wa.gov> =20 Washington Agate & Mineral Society of Olympia and the Tenino Rock Cruisers =20 HUGE 2003 Rock & Gem Rendevous =20 during Tenino Oregon Trail Days =20 Parkside Elementary School, Central Ave. E. Tenino,Washington =20 Saturday, July 26 - 10 a.m. - 6 p.m. Sunday, July 27 - 10 a.m. - 5 p.m. =20 Featuring: Demonstrations Silent Auction Indoor Displays Activities for Kids Dealer Booths Snack Bar =20 FREE ADMISSION =20 =20 Michael Messenger Northwest Indian Fisheries Commission Information Systems Manager mmessenger@nwifc.wa.gov (360) 438 -1180 ext. 321 =20 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 8 16:10:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Lawrence Bull) Date: Tue Jul 8 15:10:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Fwd: Fw: God Bless Message-ID: Sorry Folks: That e-mail was sent to the group by mistake... So please excuse me. Larry Bull >From: Dave Guin >Reply-To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com >To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com >Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Fwd: Fw: God Bless >Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 18:36:47 -0700 > >Lawrence Bull wrote: > >>>"I picked you."... >> >*snip* > >How wonderfully ethnocentric of you. > >Peace, >dave > >P.S. widgiemoolthalite > >_______________________________________________ >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >Subscription Services: >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 8 17:03:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Lanny) Date: Tue Jul 8 16:03:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Buried Alive; Challis, Idaho In-Reply-To: <015001c33e7a$05bfe460$038dbbcd@rockman> Message-ID: <4E29E99F-B198-11D7-9D0F-000393AC22E6@mineralnews.com> Hi John, Interesting report. You are so lucky with your camp and tent there... . Kind of fun to to read, glad I was part of it and not just some smuck on the list wishing I was doing something similar! I won't get any photos or movies done for a while. I'm up to my ears in work, and instead of doing that, getting ready to leave again - the annual Randy & Lanny adventure. I'll try to get the invoice and the few dealers addresses mailed before leaving Friday. But no promises. Why in hell does all the yard and garden work have to come up in summer when everything else needs attention too? I keep telling myself I'm trying to be semi-retired, but keep ending up with more work to do all the time. Sure glad I like the work! The FM trip went really well. Great bunch of people, lot of collecting, we even found things. Lolo was nearly a bust. We went up to the rocks in the road, found it a hippy camp. One jerk parked in the left fork--all that good road not going to good use. We did various things. I went with four others hiking up the fork to the right. Saw nothing but too much vegetation and too much soil cover. Soon learned that it was probably good collecting after logging when there was good exposure, now our chances of finding float leading to a pocket was slim. Went back and hiked the left fork for a while, found a couple spots where others had dug in the past. Didn't look impressive. Went back and down the hill to the left from the parking area a hundred yards to a digging area. Looked like a miniature Crystal Park. Talked with the spaced out hippy experts. They said most finds were on the old erosion surface 1-3 feet down in a thin gravelly layer under the roots and boulders. Spent a couple hours digging, but decided the spot we chose had too big of rocks. Leo found a lustrous 3 inch smoky and a smaller one by poking around in several old diggins. Other than that, out of the dozen other people there, only 1 crystal had been found. Yet these space cadets seemed happy as could be (seemed like they needed an occasional dollar to buy more drugs -- guessing by the broken speech patterns. Not exactly what I would call worth the trouble. I'm not interested in digging transported single smoky quartz crystals, so I'm with Tweten, it looks like Lolo would be a lot more fun if there is a new clearcut! In our group, doing various amounts of looking for a pocket and digging in this area, the two found by Leo were it, other than a few pieces. There were a dozen cars at the rocks, 7 from Washington! Snowbird was supposed to be snowed in, so we didn't go there. Turned out the road wasn't snowed in, but the Schley Saddle gate wasn't unlocked either! Glad we didn't try. It was a great trip, I made it a vacation, didn't work too hard, but found things everywhere. Crystal Park was fair, no great finds, but a few good single scepters. Wow, that place is getting dug up! You missed a great buffet on Wednesday-- 8 people ate 4 racks of ribs and a half of a salmon along with a lot of great goodies including two platters of curry chicken in cucumber cups (cold eat more of those myself). Oh well, another trip gone by. Need somewhere new to take people another time... Enjoy, Lanny From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Jul 9 02:20:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Wed Jul 9 01:20:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Buried alive Message-ID: <128.2da164de.2c3d2a1f@aol.com> In a message dated 7/8/2003 8:01:56 PM Central Daylight Time, rockhounds-request@lists.drizzle.com writes: > We went up to the rocks > in the road, found it a hippy camp. Wow, I always wanted to live in one of those! I still consider myself a hippie, albeit a senior one. Living in a self-sustaining environment would be it. Susy 'once a hippie, why would you want to change? Peace' --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Jul 9 11:34:02 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Lanny) Date: Wed Jul 9 10:34:02 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Buried alive In-Reply-To: <128.2da164de.2c3d2a1f@aol.com> Message-ID: <6AEB3B6E-B233-11D7-9D0F-000393AC22E6@mineralnews.com> Give this one a try and you can have the fun of collecting smoky quartz too. Or at least trying too. But I recommend taking an old vehicle unless you want a new set of scratches on a good paint job from the brush growing alongside the road. Nice country too, green and mountainous, fresh air, barking dogs, loud music... Lanny On Wednesday, July 9, 2003, at 01:19 AM, Blueriverjewelry@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/8/2003 8:01:56 PM Central Daylight Time, > rockhounds-request@lists.drizzle.com writes: > >> We went up to the rocks >> in the road, found it a hippy camp. > > Wow, I always wanted to live in one of those! I still consider myself > a > hippie, albeit a senior one. Living in a self-sustaining environment > would be it. > > > Susy > 'once a hippie, why would you want to change? Peace' > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Jul 9 13:36:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Wed Jul 9 12:36:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Buried alive Message-ID: In a message dated 7/9/03 1:21:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Blueriverjewelry@aol.com writes: > > 'once a hippie, why would you want to change? Peace' I think the changes came slowly. In 1967 we would say, "Do your own thing." I never did work very hard because the things I worked hard at were the things I loved. My income went up slowly because I enjoyed buying and fixing up old houses. Having enough money is nice when you are older. I never quit using drugs but I realized one day I had not done any 'partying' for about 20 years. I hadn't quit using drugs, as far as making a conscious decision, but when people asked if I want a hit I said "no." My long hair is intact, except for that big bald spot on top, and there is usually something growing wild on my face. I went from hitch-hiking with a sleeping bag to a station wagon -- then to a motor home. When I was hitch-hiking the bathroom was behind a bush, but the one in the motor home sure is nice, especially after the sun goes down on a cold night. I still have my life in the counter-culture. I just designed a CD cover for my exgirlfriend, Naomi Ruth Eisenberg, from 1967. Some people might remember her as one of the 'Licketts' from Dan Hicks & The Hot Licks. I also do a folk music show on community radio (www.kzfr.org) every other week. I guess I'm still a hippie. I kept the parts of the counter-culture that had value to me and I brought it into my life in the 21st century. I'm still doing my own thing and it worked for me. I hope everybody else had as much fun as I did. Grant --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Jul 9 15:34:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Wed Jul 9 14:34:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Buried alive Message-ID: <6c.2f8e1cea.2c3de43d@aol.com> In a message dated 7/9/03 10:35:04 AM, lanny@mineralnews.com writes: << But I recommend taking an old vehicle unless you want a new set of scratches on a good paint job from the brush growing alongside the road. >> Lanny got that one right !!! I just got back from Summit Rock, by Crater Lake, OR and now I have scratches down the sides of my Suburban. :( Bill Tompkins From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Jul 9 16:00:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kris Murray) Date: Wed Jul 9 15:00:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Buried alive In-Reply-To: <6c.2f8e1cea.2c3de43d@aol.com> Message-ID: <8E38B564-B258-11D7-800D-000393A96092@mac.com> i know a company that makes what is called snake skin, you apply it to places you no want scratches and then peel it off when done wheeling. I can get link if anyone is interested, like a light duty bedliner but wont hurt paint and peels off when done, neat stuff KM On Wednesday, July 9, 2003, at 02:33 PM, WTompkcccc@aol.com wrote: > << But I recommend taking an old vehicle > unless you want a new set of scratches on a good paint job from the > brush growing alongside the road. >> > > Lanny got that one right !!! I just got back from Summit Rock, by > Crater > Lake, OR and now I have scratches down the sides of my Suburban. :( We're going to have the best-educated American people in the world. -- Vice President Dan Quayle, 9/21/88 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/enriched --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Jul 9 18:53:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Paul Green/Robin Lyn Green) Date: Wed Jul 9 17:53:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Dealers still needed for Rock & Mineral Show in Central, Ohio Message-ID: <006301c3467b$603343c0$9600000a@alltel.net> The Licking County Rock and Mineral Society will be holding a gem, = mineral, fossil and craft show September 27 & 28, 2003 in the Indian = Mound Shopping Mall in Heath, Ohio (about 30 miles east of Columbus). = We still have openings for more dealers to participate. For more = information contact our dealer show chairman, Jack Lahr, at = jlahr@ecr.net or by phone 740-397-7934. Paul Green, Show Chairman pgre@alltel.net --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Jul 9 22:23:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Wed Jul 9 21:23:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: buried alive Message-ID: <57.1f7274bb.2c3e43c1@aol.com> In a message dated 7/9/2003 8:01:48 PM Central Daylight Time, rockhounds-request@lists.drizzle.com writes: > i know a company that makes what is called snake skin, you apply it to > places you no want scratches and then peel it off when done wheeling. Gee Kris, I wish I would have known that about 2 years ago! What is it? Susy --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Jul 9 22:53:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kris W. Murray) Date: Wed Jul 9 21:53:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: buried alive In-Reply-To: <57.1f7274bb.2c3e43c1@aol.com> Message-ID: <3EBB38CA-B292-11D7-AEEC-000393B396CA@mac.com> its called snake skin, i will get the phone number from the guy whom i am forwarding this to, ora n email at the least its a very new product, waterbased believe it or not, but it works great!! KM PS Rob, gimme that phone number/email via icq On Wednesday, July 9, 2003, at 09:21 PM, Blueriverjewelry@aol.com wrote: > I wish I would have known that about 2 years ago! What is it? A lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/enriched --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 10 11:11:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Thu Jul 10 10:11:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Looking for anthracite slab Message-ID: <10f.23f4c4e2.2c3ef80c@aol.com> Hi List, There is a lady in California who is trying to make a map of the US, using minerals. She is looking for an anthracite slab for Pennsylvania, and also something to use for Maryland. Can anyone on the list help her? I have been unable to, and could use some assistance. I can forward any suggestions to her, or I can provide an e-mail address. Thanks, Dave Sunset Fossils & Minerals --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 10 11:50:03 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Thu Jul 10 10:50:03 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Looking for anthracite slab Message-ID: Hi List, Serpentine would be one option for Maryland. BETDAV97@aol.com Sent by: To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com rockhounds-admin@lists. cc: drizzle.com Subject: [Rockhounds] Looking for anthracite slab 07/10/2003 01:10 PM Please respond to rockhounds Hi List, There is a lady in California who is trying to make a map of the US, using minerals. She is looking for an anthracite slab for Pennsylvania, and also something to use for Maryland. Can anyone on the list help her? I have been unable to, and could use some assistance. I can forward any suggestions to her, or I can provide an e-mail address. Thanks, Dave Sunset Fossils & Minerals --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- _______________________________________________ Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds Subscription Services: http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 10 11:54:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Lanny) Date: Thu Jul 10 10:54:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Buried alive In-Reply-To: <6c.2f8e1cea.2c3de43d@aol.com> Message-ID: <64778CFC-B2FF-11D7-9D0F-000393AC22E6@mineralnews.com> Hi Bill, Why is it that we usually make a trip down those narrow brushy roads looking for minerals the day after we buy a new truck, then don't drive another road that narrow for a couple years? Can't imagine anyone else on this list has done that though... Good luck out there. Lanny On Wednesday, July 9, 2003, at 02:33 PM, WTompkcccc@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 7/9/03 10:35:04 AM, lanny@mineralnews.com writes: > > << But I recommend taking an old vehicle > unless you want a new set of scratches on a good paint job from the > brush growing alongside the road. >> > > Lanny got that one right !!! I just got back from Summit Rock, by > Crater > Lake, OR and now I have scratches down the sides of my Suburban. :( > > Bill Tompkins > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 10 13:10:02 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Gary Brown) Date: Thu Jul 10 12:10:02 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Stone Quarries in NV UT CO In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.9.2.20030707090728.01c0a478@mail.spiritone.com> Message-ID: <008e01c34716$e7e0d530$6501a8c0@moose> Hi all... I've got a friend who is interested in visiting building stone quarries on a road trip from Nevada thru to Denver. Any suggestions of "cool" places..."funky" places..."unique" places? Tanx. GcB From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 10 13:25:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Davis, Dennis) Date: Thu Jul 10 12:25:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Stone Quarries in NV UT CO Message-ID: <7014D6CD65A2D611887900805FBE0149564C28@exchangewv1.atk.com> The only one that comes to my mind is the granite quarry up Little Cottonwood Canyon in Salt Lake City. It is the quarry where the granite for LDS Salt Lake Temple and other Church buildings came from. The Church just finished a new assembly building a couple of years ago using the material. I don't know how close you can get to the quarry itself, but you can see where it is. -----Original Message----- From: Gary Brown [mailto:gbrown@catspaw-minerals.com] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 3:10 PM To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Subject: [Rockhounds] Stone Quarries in NV UT CO Hi all... I've got a friend who is interested in visiting building stone quarries on a road trip from Nevada thru to Denver. Any suggestions of "cool" places..."funky" places..."unique" places? Tanx. GcB _______________________________________________ Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds Subscription Services: http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 10 18:19:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Thu Jul 10 17:19:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Stone Quarries in NV UT CO Message-ID: <4d.32228b77.2c3f5c6b@aol.com> In a message dated 7/10/03 12:26:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Dennis_Davis@atk.com writes: > The only one that comes to my mind is the granite quarry up Little > Cottonwood Canyon in Salt Lake City. It is the quarry where the granite for > LDS Salt Lake Temple and other Church buildings came from. There is a quarry east of Reno with fossils but I think it is closed to the public. Also, I have some opalite that came Seven Troughs, north of Lovelock. I don't have explicate directions but the opalite is in a seam through a diatomaceous earth pit near Seven Troughs. I was told, "Where the Seven Troughs Road turns you go straight for one and a half miles. Go to the edge of, but not into, the pit." It is pretty stuff, the color of root beer or dark honey. You can find it by searching for "seven Troughs" at http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form Also, you can search that site for mines by selecting "Mine" in the "Feature type" field. Grant --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 10 19:18:50 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Aaron Fox) Date: Thu Jul 10 18:18:50 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Oslo Rock Clubs? (fwd) Message-ID: Normally, I wouldn't forward, but I'm kind of curious myself. Replies to the sender, not me, thx. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:48:52 EDT From: NubertR@aol.com To: afox@drizzle.com Subject: (no subject) Do you know of any gem & mineral clubs in Oslo, Norway? We will be there next month. thanks, Dan & Carole Nielson From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 10 19:25:04 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kent Smith) Date: Thu Jul 10 18:25:04 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Satellite Images Message-ID: <000a01c3444a$1cda40c0$6401a8c0@kent> Does anybody have the address of the site where you can view satellite = images by entering an address or coordinates? --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 10 19:25:20 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Joachim Burow) Date: Thu Jul 10 18:25:20 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Hi Message-ID: <19aBUD-0nCeZs0@fwd05.sul.t-online.com> It give an German small book : "Der Aufschluss" about Laurion and a CD-R about Laurion from the same authors, there is written about all minerals, history, geologie with many fotos ( minerals and old fotos). It is only in german. From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 10 19:25:22 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Horst Windisch) Date: Thu Jul 10 18:25:22 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Silence? Message-ID: <012801c346e9$cf754800$b13d27c4@horstspc> Hi Everybody, Everso silent from my mailbox? Over the past week (on the 3rd of July) i underwent a tripplebypass heart surgery. Got back home yesterday afternoon. Thus I will not be able to communicate with you for some time. I"m feeling tired and sore, but otherwise ok. Kind regards Horst From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 10 20:53:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kreigh Tomaszewski) Date: Thu Jul 10 19:53:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Satellite Images References: <000a01c3444a$1cda40c0$6401a8c0@kent> Message-ID: <3F0E2679.4752@Tomaszewski.net> Kent Smith wrote: > > Does anybody have the address of the site where you can view satellite images by entering an address or coordinates? > www.terrafly.com is one such address. From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 10 20:56:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kreigh Tomaszewski) Date: Thu Jul 10 19:56:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Silence? References: <012801c346e9$cf754800$b13d27c4@horstspc> Message-ID: <3F0E2738.71E5@Tomaszewski.net> Horst Windisch wrote: > > Hi Everybody, > > Everso silent from my mailbox? Over the past week (on the 3rd of July) i > underwent a tripplebypass heart surgery. Got back home yesterday afternoon. > Thus I will not be able to communicate with you for some time. > I"m feeling tired and sore, but otherwise ok. > > Kind regards > Horst > My Prayers are with you for a complete recovery! God Bless! Kreigh From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 10 21:14:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kris W. Murray) Date: Thu Jul 10 20:14:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Stone Quarries in NV UT CO In-Reply-To: <7014D6CD65A2D611887900805FBE0149564C28@exchangewv1.atk.com> Message-ID: 10 minutes on google didnt show this mine, any other leads/links?? TIA KM On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 12:23 PM, Davis, Dennis wrote: > The only one that comes to my mind is the granite quarry up Little > Cottonwood Canyon in Salt Lake City. Courage is the complement of fear. A man who is fearless cannot be courageous. (He is also a fool.) -Lazarus Long, Time Enough For Love --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/enriched --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 10 21:32:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Bob Loeffler) Date: Thu Jul 10 20:32:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Stone Quarries in NV UT CO In-Reply-To: <008e01c34716$e7e0d530$6501a8c0@moose> Message-ID: Hi Gary, There is a marble quarry in... Marble, Colorado... but I don't know what its status is. I went to it a few years ago but couldn't drive all the way to it. There were signs that said no trespassing, but it might still be a good stop for your friend. There is marble laying everywhere. Marble from a few of our national monuments (i.e. Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, the Washington Monument, etc) came from this location. I'm guessing it's 35 to 40 miles south of Glenwood Springs. Let me know if your friend needs better directions. Regards, Bob Loeffler Field Trip Chairman and Webmaster North Jeffco Gem & Mineral Club (Arvada, CO USA) http://www.peaktopeak.com/minerals/njeffco/ and a member of the Rock & Mineral Society (RAMS) Check out the largest Colorado Rockhounding website at: http://www.peaktopeak.com/minerals/colorado/ -----Original Message----- From: rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com [mailto:rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com]On Behalf Of Gary Brown Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 1:10 PM To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Subject: [Rockhounds] Stone Quarries in NV UT CO Hi all... I've got a friend who is interested in visiting building stone quarries on a road trip from Nevada thru to Denver. Any suggestions of "cool" places..."funky" places..."unique" places? Tanx. GcB _______________________________________________ Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds Subscription Services: http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 10 21:33:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kreigh Tomaszewski) Date: Thu Jul 10 20:33:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Stone Quarries in NV UT CO References: Message-ID: <3F0E2FB9.6312@Tomaszewski.net> Kris W. Murray wrote: > > 10 minutes on google didnt show this mine, any other leads/links?? > TIA > KM > On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 12:23 PM, Davis, Dennis wrote: > > > The only one that comes to my mind is the granite quarry up Little > > Cottonwood Canyon in Salt Lake City. > Courage is the complement of fear. A man who is fearless cannot be > courageous. (He is also a fool.) > -Lazarus Long, Time Enough For Love A quick search on Google for "granite quarry up Little Cottonwood Canyon in Salt Lake City > Cottonwood Canyon in Salt Lake City" found 190 hits. Are you saying none of them were productive? From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 10 21:46:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kris W. Murray) Date: Thu Jul 10 20:46:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Stone Quarries in NV UT CO In-Reply-To: <3F0E2FB9.6312@Tomaszewski.net> Message-ID: <2997F131-B352-11D7-AEEC-000393B396CA@mac.com> i feel like a dork i started with granite mine little cottonwood canyon and other=20 variations but the first link with your search criteria showed a mtn=20 bike trail that looks to be a winner KM On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 08:39 PM, Kreigh Tomaszewski wrote: > granite quarry up Little Cottonwood Canyon > in Salt Lake City I=92ve never understood how God could expect His creatures to pick the=20= one true religion by faith=97it strikes me as a sloppy way to run a=20 universe. -Jubal Harshaw, Stranger in a Strange Land --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/enriched --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 10 22:42:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (TA Masters) Date: Thu Jul 10 21:42:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Oslo Rock Clubs? (fwd) References: Message-ID: <3F0E3FF0.3080603@cox.net> I have forwarded this message to two friends of mine who currently live in two locations in Norway, both rockhounds. Teresa From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 10 23:13:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rocks4u) Date: Thu Jul 10 22:13:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Buried alive References: <64778CFC-B2FF-11D7-9D0F-000393AC22E6@mineralnews.com> Message-ID: <005f01c3476b$b7075650$56721e43@s4b5j4> Wanna Bet! I've had two brand new Ford trucks and got scratches on them within 500 miles on the odometer up at Clear Creek in California. It was my way of breaking in the trucks so there is no more worry about getting the first scratch. Cheers! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lanny" To: Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Re: Buried alive > Hi Bill, > > Why is it that we usually make a trip down those narrow brushy roads > looking for minerals the day after we buy a new truck, then don't drive > another road that narrow for a couple years? > > Can't imagine anyone else on this list has done that though... > > Good luck out there. > > Lanny From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Jul 11 01:19:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Terri Collier) Date: Fri Jul 11 00:19:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Satellite Images References: <000a01c3444a$1cda40c0$6401a8c0@kent> Message-ID: <000901c3477c$95480df0$a82efea9@terrimnm20ifrv> Here are just a few that I've used in the past: http://terrafly.com/ http://terraserver-usa.com/ http://www.landvoyage.com/?PortalID=229 Mapping resources: http://personal.cmich.edu/~franc1m/locamap.htm http://www.angelo.edu/services/library/govdocs/maps.htm http://www.onlineinc.com/searcher/jun02/mcdermott.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Smith" To: Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 12:39 AM Subject: [Rockhounds] Satellite Images Does anybody have the address of the site where you can view satellite images by entering an address or coordinates? --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- _______________________________________________ Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds Subscription Services: http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Jul 11 03:02:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Axel Emmermann) Date: Fri Jul 11 02:02:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Silence? References: <012801c346e9$cf754800$b13d27c4@horstspc> Message-ID: <003601c3478b$8d275fe0$769d77d5@pandora.be> Hi Horst, I wish you a speedy and complete recovery. Get well soon! cheers Axel Emmermann Mineralogische Kring Antwerpen Werkgroepen Fluorescentie & Technische Realisaties Home : Lobbesplein 12 B-2640 Mortsel Belgium Tel: +32 (0)3 295.35.54 E-mail: axel.emmermann@pandora.be Visit our homepage: http://www.minerant.org/index.html Bezoek onze web-site: http://www.minerant.org/MKA/index.html My own web-site: http://users.pandora.be/axel.emmerman/home/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Horst Windisch" To: "Ashley Diack" ; "Kim Dreyer" ; "Malcolm Jackson" ; "Noel Pearse" ; "Annie Slabbert" ; "Douw Steyn" ; "Ingrid Marshall" ; "Allan Fraser" ; "Ray Biram" ; "Ludi von Bezing" ; "Leslie Liebenberg" ; "Ray Hudson" ; "Hele Preller" ; "Jopie Kotze" ; "Horst Windisch" ; "Gehard Louw" ; "Audrey Pietersen" ; "Horst Windisch" ; "John C. Ebner" ; "Mike Holahan (H)" ; "Ray Lasmanis" ; "Elmar Nieding" ; "Piet van Kalmthout" ; "Garth Ziemba" ; "Saul Krotki" ; "Paul Poulain" ; "Alan and Sue Edwards" ; "Johan van Niekerk" ; "Dieter Heinichen" ; "Lex Krabbendam" ; "Este Steyn" ; "Erich Mayerl" ; "Ian Campbell" ; "Siegfried Weinert" ; "Henk Smit" ; "Volker Gartz" ; "Murray Skikna" ; "Paul Botha" ; "Mike Holahan (W)" ; "Jac & Kathy Hugo" ; "Bruce Cairncross" ; "Anita Wilson" ; "Roger Dixon" ; "Ken Eggleston" ; "Reinhard le Roux" ; "Albie Gibson" ; "Arthur Fitt" ; "Barbara W Oetzman" ; "Ian Graham" ; "Hanspeter Klinger" ; "Lanny Ream" ; "Manfred Seitz" ; "Quintin Wight" ; "Juanita Curtis" ; "Anneke de Jong" ; "Anneke de Jong" ; "Hubert Gross" ; "Werner Grittner" ; "Herbert Fielding" ; "George Finley" ; "Mieke Divendal" ; "Jean-Pierre Descamps" ; "Nicholas D'Errico" ; "John Delly" ; "Katie Cole" ; "Rose Blanchard" ; "Bernardino Bertossa" ; "William Beiriger" ; "Judy Baxtresser" ; "Ernestus Barsa" ; "John Fox" ; "Rosa Camera" ; "Malyka Cremoux" ; "Marco Bonifazi" ; "Ralf Hermann" ; "Richard Rick Myers" ; "Niklas Manz" ; "Joachim Luederwaldt" ; "Hans- Joerg Liebehenz" ; "Jacques Lapaire" ; "Irene Korstjens" ; "Christine Heimbach" ; "Hans-Georg Kieselhofer" ; "Ralf Milke" ; "Joop van Dijk" ; "Roger Remacle" ; "Linda Sharkey" ; "Olivier Valeton" ; "Frances Vandervoort" ; "Bernd Opierzynski" ; "James Zimbelman" ; "Bernie Stannus" ; "Gilles Prouteau" ; "Gloria Olmstead" ; "Jan Walls" ; "Hans-Peter Rademachers" ; "Kevin Hean" ; "Mineralogical Society of Southern Africa" ; "Karl and Lucy Sprich" ; "Gill Glyn-Jones" ; "Gondwana Resources" ; "Joseph Pritz" ; "Rolf Brandt" ; "Maria's Gems and Minerals" ; "African Gems and Minerals" ; "Clive Queit" ; "David Minster" ; "Colin Corser" ; "Stones for Africa" ; "Tanya Fourie" ; "Gerdus Bronn" ; "Cryslife" ; "Jan Maritz" ; "Lapis Lazuli" ; "Amber Jewellery" ; "Sterling Crafts" ; "Terry Ashmore" Cc: "rockhounds" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 3:37 PM Subject: [Rockhounds] Silence? > Hi Everybody, > > Everso silent from my mailbox? Over the past week (on the 3rd of July) i > underwent a tripplebypass heart surgery. Got back home yesterday afternoon. > Thus I will not be able to communicate with you for some time. > I"m feeling tired and sore, but otherwise ok. > > Kind regards > Horst > > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Jul 11 08:31:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Margaret Malm) Date: Fri Jul 11 07:31:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Stone Quarries in NV UT CO References: <4d.32228b77.2c3f5c6b@aol.com> Message-ID: <001701c347b8$1b3f6580$54315841@powertech.net> Although it might not be thought of as "building stone", there is a Selenite quarry near St. George, Ut. It is quite clear, an in sheets. the pioneers used it for window "glass". You should be able to get a map showing how to get there from the Gov't. Ineragency Office; take the Bluff St. exit, thrn right if coming from the south, or left if coming from the north, go on straight across the intersection with the stop light, and follow it around the curve and a short distance (a block or two.) It's on the left. Margaret kadok@infowest.com, in Utah's colorful Dixie > In a message dated 7/10/03 12:26:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > Dennis_Davis@atk.com writes: > > > The only one that comes to my mind is the granite quarry up Little > > Cottonwood Canyon in Salt Lake City. It is the quarry where the granite for > > LDS Salt Lake Temple and other Church buildings came from. > > There is a quarry east of Reno with fossils but I think it is closed to the > public. > Also, I have some opalite that came Seven Troughs, north of Lovelock. > > I don't have explicate directions but the opalite is in a seam through a > diatomaceous > earth pit near Seven Troughs. I was told, "Where the Seven Troughs Road turns > > you go straight for one and a half miles. Go to the edge of, but not into, > the pit." It is pretty stuff, the color of root beer or dark honey. > > You can find it by searching for "seven Troughs" at > http: //geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > > Also, you can search that site for mines by selecting "Mine" in the "Feature > type" field. > > Grant > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Jul 11 09:09:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Faceter01) Date: Fri Jul 11 08:09:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Shattuckite References: <4d.32228b77.2c3f5c6b@aol.com> <001701c347b8$1b3f6580$54315841@powertech.net> Message-ID: Hi, Are any of the members on here that are from Utah familiar with an area called Jacob's Ladder in Utah County? It's listed in the USGS as a "slope." I have some Shattuckite from there collected by an older geologist many years ago and was wondering if anyone else from the area has collected any from there. Ron From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Jul 11 10:21:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Van) Date: Fri Jul 11 09:21:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Shattuckite References: <4d.32228b77.2c3f5c6b@aol.com> <001701c347b8$1b3f6580$54315841@powertech.net> Message-ID: <001501c347c8$5fde47a0$c3ff4342@nathanqa8gl7gx> Searched my database and found no "Jacob" in a locality name except in Pennsylvania and North Carolina. How sure are you that you have shattuckite? I do list shattuckite from the following: Shattuckite - {Jack Pot mine}, Co. unknown, {New Cornelia mine}, [Ajo], Pima Co., {Roadside mine}, {San Manuel mine}, [[Mammoth District]], Pinal Co., [[Clifton-Morenci District]], Greenlee Co., {Moon Anchor mine}, {Potter-Cramer mine}, [S of Wickenburg], Maricopa Co., [New Water Mountains], Yuma Co., {Shattuck mine}, [Bisbee], [[Warren District]], Cochise Co., AZ; {Defense mine}, [E Argus Mountains], [[Modoc District]], Inyo Co., CA; {Kelly mine}, [[Magdalena District]], Socorro Co., NM; {Betty Jo prospect}, [near Ely], [[Robinson (Ely, [Ruth], Kimberly) District]], White Pine Co., NV Does anyone know of a Jack Pot mine in Arizona? Van ----- Original Message ----- From: "Faceter01" To: Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:08 AM Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Shattuckite > Hi, > > Are any of the members on here that are from Utah familiar with an area > called Jacob's Ladder in Utah County? It's listed in the USGS as a "slope." > I have some Shattuckite from there collected by an older geologist many > years ago and was wondering if anyone else from the area has collected any > from there. > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Jul 11 10:29:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Ronald Werner) Date: Fri Jul 11 09:29:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Oslo Rock Clubs? (fwd)] References: <3F0E3FB0.7040700@cox.net> Message-ID: <004801c347c9$6dac68c0$44b09fc3@RW> Sure, there is a rock club in Oslo: Oslo og Omegn Geologiforening Postboks 922=20 Sentrum=20 0104 OSLO=20 Foreman: Einar =D8deg=E5rd/ tel: +47 - 67075137=20 I am not sure his email adresse is still valid, since his homepage is = down: eioedega@online.no You might find more information at the homepage of the NAGS - Norges = Amat=F8rgeologers Sammensluttning: http://www.nags.net/ I know for sure there is no mineral show in this period. The norwegian = main shows are 18.-20. July in Eidsfoss and 20.-21. September in Moss. If you contact me at ronwer@tiscali.no and tell me what kind of plans = and expectations you have, I might be able to give you better = information where to go and what to do. Ronald Werner Postboks 2 4733 Evje Norway ----- Original Message -----=20 From: TA Masters=20 To: Jeanne Rhodes Moen ; Ronald Werner=20 Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 6:40 AM Subject: [Fwd: [Rockhounds] Oslo Rock Clubs? (fwd)] Jeanne, Ron, Can either of you help? Terrie -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Rockhounds] Oslo Rock = Clubs? (fwd)=20 Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:11:27 -0700 (PDT)=20 From: Aaron Fox =20 Reply-To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com=20 To: Rockhounds mailing list =20 Normally, I wouldn't forward, but I'm kind of curious myself. Replies to = the sender, not me, thx. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:48:52 EDT From: NubertR@aol.com To: afox@drizzle.com Subject: (no subject) Do you know of any gem & mineral clubs in Oslo, Norway? We will be = there=20 next month. thanks, Dan & Carole Nielson _______________________________________________ Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds Subscription Services: http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Jul 11 11:02:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Mike Keim) Date: Fri Jul 11 10:02:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] AD:Mineral Updates Message-ID: Dear mineral enthusiasts, collectors, rockhounds, new age crystal fanatics, or anyone else who may enjoy looking at or buying new minerals, I haven't posted an add to the list in over a year and since I have added a few new pages of minerals lately, I thought it might be a good time. Recent updates include the new species of "red beryl" recently discovered in Madgascar that is now thought to be classified as the new mineral "Pelozzaite". I have a few choice specimens from the "second" find of the lot that came out a couple months ago, see them at www.marinmineral.com/red.html Also new pages of chinese pyromorphite (www.marinmineral.com/pyro.html) and Peruvian Rhodochrosite (www.marinmineral.com/rhodo.html), and a new page of mixed minerals that includes samples of the new find of spessartine garnets from Brazil and a specimen of the new Ethiopian Amazonite (www.marinmineral.com/mixed114.html) I will also be starting a sale soon that is available to anyong on the list now - all Lazulite specimens will be half off (www.marinmineral.com/lazulite.html) and all the "Under $20 Specimens" will be on sale at "Buy 5 get 3 for free", that is, get 8 for the price of 5, view the 8 pages at www.marinmineral.com/min20index.html Thanks, Mike Keim www.marinmineral.com The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Its contents (including any attachments) are confidential and may contain privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient you must not use, disclose, disseminate, copy or print its contents. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete and destroy the message. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Jul 11 11:41:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (John Cornish) Date: Fri Jul 11 10:41:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] AD:Mineral Updates References: Message-ID: <017001c347d3$d5146120$1546b6c7@rockman> Hi Mike, I read your posting with interest and wonder if you could elaborate on your comment, "Recent updates include the new species of "red beryl" recently discovered in Madgascar that is now thought to be classified as the new mineral "Pelozzaite". Has this information been published? We offered some of the finest and largest crystals in Tucson through my employers, Stuart Wilensky and Irv Brown (2 inch + crystals!) and I have been interested since. Conversations were had between Frank Hawthorne and Fedrico Pezzotta while there regarding this material and it was obvious that much work was enthuiastically being persued. As a side note, the pegmatitic Cesium-beryl variety Rosterite is given in the recent #2 issue of extraLapis with an original locality site listed as Elba, Italy, however, the specimen photographed is from Maharitra, Madagascar. Thus Cesium-beryl has been known from this treasure-laden island for some time. Thanks for your time. All the best, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Keim" To: Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:01 AM Subject: [Rockhounds] AD:Mineral Updates > > Dear mineral enthusiasts, collectors, rockhounds, new age crystal fanatics, > or anyone else who may enjoy looking at or buying new minerals, > > I haven't posted an add to the list in over a year and since I have added a > few new pages of minerals lately, I thought it might be a good time. Recent > updates include the new species of "red beryl" recently discovered in > Madgascar that is now thought to be classified as the new mineral > "Pelozzaite". I have a few choice specimens from the "second" find of the > lot that came out a couple months ago, see them at > www.marinmineral.com/red.html > > Also new pages of chinese pyromorphite (www.marinmineral.com/pyro.html) and > Peruvian Rhodochrosite (www.marinmineral.com/rhodo.html), and a new page of > mixed minerals that includes samples of the new find of spessartine garnets > from Brazil and a specimen of the new Ethiopian Amazonite > (www.marinmineral.com/mixed114.html) > > I will also be starting a sale soon that is available to anyong on the list > now - all Lazulite specimens will be half off > (www.marinmineral.com/lazulite.html) and all the "Under $20 Specimens" will > be on sale at "Buy 5 get 3 for free", that is, get 8 for the price of 5, > view the 8 pages at www.marinmineral.com/min20index.html > > Thanks, > > Mike Keim > www.marinmineral.com > > > > > > > > The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the individual or entity > to whom it is addressed. Its contents (including any attachments) are confidential and > may contain privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient you must not > use, disclose, disseminate, copy or print its contents. If you receive this e-mail in > error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete and destroy the message. > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Jul 11 13:15:02 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (John Cornish) Date: Fri Jul 11 12:15:02 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] AD:Mineral Updates References: <017001c347d3$d5146120$1546b6c7@rockman> Message-ID: <017801c347e1$00c79780$1546b6c7@rockman> Hi All, I did a Google search of Pelozzaite and came up with the following if your interested... http://www.trinityminerals.com/sm2003/specials.shtml http://www.irocks.com/new.html ... from there to Pezzottaite and Madagascarite where I found no additional information. The IMA website additionally did not help. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Cornish" To: Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] AD:Mineral Updates > Hi Mike, > > I read your posting with interest and wonder if you could elaborate on your > comment, "Recent updates include the new species of "red beryl" recently > discovered in Madgascar that is now thought to be classified as the new > mineral "Pelozzaite". Has this information been published? We offered some > of the finest and largest crystals in Tucson through my employers, Stuart > Wilensky and Irv Brown (2 inch + crystals!) and I have been interested > since. Conversations were had between Frank Hawthorne and Fedrico Pezzotta > while there regarding this material and it was obvious that much work was > enthuiastically being persued. > > As a side note, the pegmatitic Cesium-beryl variety Rosterite is given in > the recent #2 issue of extraLapis with an original locality site listed as > Elba, Italy, however, the specimen photographed is from Maharitra, > Madagascar. Thus Cesium-beryl has been known from this treasure-laden island > for some time. > > Thanks for your time. All the best, > > John > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Keim" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:01 AM > Subject: [Rockhounds] AD:Mineral Updates > > > > > > Dear mineral enthusiasts, collectors, rockhounds, new age crystal > fanatics, > > or anyone else who may enjoy looking at or buying new minerals, > > > > I haven't posted an add to the list in over a year and since I have added > a > > few new pages of minerals lately, I thought it might be a good time. > Recent > > updates include the new species of "red beryl" recently discovered in > > Madgascar that is now thought to be classified as the new mineral > > "Pelozzaite". I have a few choice specimens from the "second" find of the > > lot that came out a couple months ago, see them at > > www.marinmineral.com/red.html > > > > Also new pages of chinese pyromorphite (www.marinmineral.com/pyro.html) > and > > Peruvian Rhodochrosite (www.marinmineral.com/rhodo.html), and a new page > of > > mixed minerals that includes samples of the new find of spessartine > garnets > > from Brazil and a specimen of the new Ethiopian Amazonite > > (www.marinmineral.com/mixed114.html) > > > > I will also be starting a sale soon that is available to anyong on the > list > > now - all Lazulite specimens will be half off > > (www.marinmineral.com/lazulite.html) and all the "Under $20 Specimens" > will > > be on sale at "Buy 5 get 3 for free", that is, get 8 for the price of 5, > > view the 8 pages at www.marinmineral.com/min20index.html > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mike Keim > > www.marinmineral.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the > individual or entity > > to whom it is addressed. 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If you receive > this e-mail in > > error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete and destroy the > message. > > > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > > multipart/alternative > > text/plain (text body -- kept) > > text/html > > --- > > _______________________________________________ > > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > > Subscription Services: > > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Jul 11 14:06:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Mike Keim) Date: Fri Jul 11 13:06:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] AD:Mineral Updates Message-ID: John, Thanks for the historical info on the cesium beryl. I did not see the 2-inch crystals at Tucson but heard about them and know they were sold quickly. The crystals I have are from a find from about 2 months ago(what I hear, hard to know if there was a second find or if this was just a second lot to leave the country). Supposedly from a pocket that produced some good matrix pieces, but I have not heard about large (2-inch) crystals from this "find". I see in my message that "thought to be classified" should have been "think will classified", it's my understanding that this mineral will be designated a new species, not that I think it already has been, Mike -----Original Message----- From: John Cornish [mailto:j&gcornish@tenforward.com] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 12:17 PM To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] AD:Mineral Updates Hi All, I did a Google search of Pelozzaite and came up with the following if your interested... http://www.trinityminerals.com/sm2003/specials.shtml http://www.irocks.com/new.html ... from there to Pezzottaite and Madagascarite where I found no additional information. The IMA website additionally did not help. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Cornish" To: Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] AD:Mineral Updates > Hi Mike, > > I read your posting with interest and wonder if you could elaborate on your > comment, "Recent updates include the new species of "red beryl" recently > discovered in Madgascar that is now thought to be classified as the new > mineral "Pelozzaite". Has this information been published? We offered some > of the finest and largest crystals in Tucson through my employers, Stuart > Wilensky and Irv Brown (2 inch + crystals!) and I have been interested > since. Conversations were had between Frank Hawthorne and Fedrico Pezzotta > while there regarding this material and it was obvious that much work was > enthuiastically being persued. > > As a side note, the pegmatitic Cesium-beryl variety Rosterite is given in > the recent #2 issue of extraLapis with an original locality site listed as > Elba, Italy, however, the specimen photographed is from Maharitra, > Madagascar. Thus Cesium-beryl has been known from this treasure-laden island > for some time. > > Thanks for your time. All the best, > > John > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Keim" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:01 AM > Subject: [Rockhounds] AD:Mineral Updates > > > > > > Dear mineral enthusiasts, collectors, rockhounds, new age crystal > fanatics, > > or anyone else who may enjoy looking at or buying new minerals, > > > > I haven't posted an add to the list in over a year and since I have added > a > > few new pages of minerals lately, I thought it might be a good time. > Recent > > updates include the new species of "red beryl" recently discovered in > > Madgascar that is now thought to be classified as the new mineral > > "Pelozzaite". I have a few choice specimens from the "second" find of the > > lot that came out a couple months ago, see them at > > www.marinmineral.com/red.html > > > > Also new pages of chinese pyromorphite (www.marinmineral.com/pyro.html) > and > > Peruvian Rhodochrosite (www.marinmineral.com/rhodo.html), and a new page > of > > mixed minerals that includes samples of the new find of spessartine > garnets > > from Brazil and a specimen of the new Ethiopian Amazonite > > (www.marinmineral.com/mixed114.html) > > > > I will also be starting a sale soon that is available to anyong on the > list > > now - all Lazulite specimens will be half off > > (www.marinmineral.com/lazulite.html) and all the "Under $20 Specimens" > will > > be on sale at "Buy 5 get 3 for free", that is, get 8 for the price of 5, > > view the 8 pages at www.marinmineral.com/min20index.html > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mike Keim > > www.marinmineral.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the > individual or entity > > to whom it is addressed. Its contents (including any attachments) are > confidential and > > may contain privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient > you must not > > use, disclose, disseminate, copy or print its contents. If you receive > this e-mail in > > error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete and destroy the > message. > > > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > > multipart/alternative > > text/plain (text body -- kept) > > text/html > > --- > > _______________________________________________ > > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > > Subscription Services: > > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > _______________________________________________ Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds Subscription Services: http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Its contents (including any attachments) are confidential and may contain privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient you must not use, disclose, disseminate, copy or print its contents. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete and destroy the message. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Jul 11 16:01:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (John Cornish) Date: Fri Jul 11 15:01:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] AD:Mineral Updates References: Message-ID: <018401c347f8$44aa7870$1546b6c7@rockman> Hi Mike, Thank you for reply. If I helped, I'm happy! Another thought, many folks seemed to have considered this a type of morganite (due to its color I suppose). This is of course incorrect as morganite is not rich in cesium, but rather receives its color from manganese if I'm not mistaken. All the best, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Keim" To: Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 1:05 PM Subject: RE: [Rockhounds] AD:Mineral Updates > > John, > > Thanks for the historical info on the cesium beryl. I did not see the > 2-inch crystals at Tucson but heard about them and know they were sold > quickly. The crystals I have are from a find from about 2 months ago(what I > hear, hard to know if there was a second find or if this was just a second > lot to leave the country). Supposedly from a pocket that produced some good > matrix pieces, but I have not heard about large (2-inch) crystals from this > "find". I see in my message that "thought to be classified" should have > been "think will classified", it's my understanding that this mineral will > be designated a new species, not that I think it already has been, > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Cornish [mailto:j&gcornish@tenforward.com] > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 12:17 PM > To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com > Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] AD:Mineral Updates > > > Hi All, > > I did a Google search of Pelozzaite and came up with the following if your > interested... > > http://www.trinityminerals.com/sm2003/specials.shtml > > http://www.irocks.com/new.html > > ... from there to Pezzottaite and Madagascarite where I found no additional > information. The IMA website additionally did not help. > > John > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Cornish" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:42 AM > Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] AD:Mineral Updates > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > I read your posting with interest and wonder if you could elaborate on > your > > comment, "Recent updates include the new species of "red beryl" recently > > discovered in Madgascar that is now thought to be classified as the new > > mineral "Pelozzaite". Has this information been published? We offered some > > of the finest and largest crystals in Tucson through my employers, Stuart > > Wilensky and Irv Brown (2 inch + crystals!) and I have been interested > > since. Conversations were had between Frank Hawthorne and Fedrico Pezzotta > > while there regarding this material and it was obvious that much work was > > enthuiastically being persued. > > > > As a side note, the pegmatitic Cesium-beryl variety Rosterite is given in > > the recent #2 issue of extraLapis with an original locality site listed as > > Elba, Italy, however, the specimen photographed is from Maharitra, > > Madagascar. Thus Cesium-beryl has been known from this treasure-laden > island > > for some time. > > > > Thanks for your time. All the best, > > > > John > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Keim" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:01 AM > > Subject: [Rockhounds] AD:Mineral Updates > > > > > > > > > > Dear mineral enthusiasts, collectors, rockhounds, new age crystal > > fanatics, > > > or anyone else who may enjoy looking at or buying new minerals, > > > > > > I haven't posted an add to the list in over a year and since I have > added > > a > > > few new pages of minerals lately, I thought it might be a good time. > > Recent > > > updates include the new species of "red beryl" recently discovered in > > > Madgascar that is now thought to be classified as the new mineral > > > "Pelozzaite". I have a few choice specimens from the "second" find of > the > > > lot that came out a couple months ago, see them at > > > www.marinmineral.com/red.html > > > > > > Also new pages of chinese pyromorphite (www.marinmineral.com/pyro.html) > > and > > > Peruvian Rhodochrosite (www.marinmineral.com/rhodo.html), and a new page > > of > > > mixed minerals that includes samples of the new find of spessartine > > garnets > > > from Brazil and a specimen of the new Ethiopian Amazonite > > > (www.marinmineral.com/mixed114.html) > > > > > > I will also be starting a sale soon that is available to anyong on the > > list > > > now - all Lazulite specimens will be half off > > > (www.marinmineral.com/lazulite.html) and all the "Under $20 Specimens" > > will > > > be on sale at "Buy 5 get 3 for free", that is, get 8 for the price of 5, > > > view the 8 pages at www.marinmineral.com/min20index.html > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Mike Keim > > > www.marinmineral.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the > > individual or entity > > > to whom it is addressed. Its contents (including any attachments) are > > confidential and > > > may contain privileged information. If you are not an intended > recipient > > you must not > > > use, disclose, disseminate, copy or print its contents. If you receive > > this e-mail in > > > error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete and destroy > the > > message. > > > > > > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > > > multipart/alternative > > > text/plain (text body -- kept) > > > text/html > > > --- > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > > > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > > > Subscription Services: > > > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > > Subscription Services: > > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the individual or entity > to whom it is addressed. Its contents (including any attachments) are confidential and > may contain privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient you must not > use, disclose, disseminate, copy or print its contents. If you receive this e-mail in > error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete and destroy the message. > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Jul 11 17:42:03 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Ron) Date: Fri Jul 11 16:42:03 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Shattuckite References: <4d.32228b77.2c3f5c6b@aol.com> <001701c347b8$1b3f6580$54315841@powertech.net> <001501c347c8$5fde47a0$c3ff4342@nathanqa8gl7gx> Message-ID: Hi Van, > Searched my database and found no "Jacob" in a locality name except in > Pennsylvania and North Carolina. How sure are you that you have shattuckite? Well, I do have shattuckite from other areas and the specimens from Utah are the same steel gray/blue as the specimens from the other areas, and not the brighter azurite blue. I did research it in an old mineral location book a few years ago and it did mention shattuckite coming from the area. I really can only go by what I was told. YES, I know, I know, don't believe everything someone tells you, but, I know the geologist, Ted Fredericks, (Geologist, Teacher, and member of the Rockhounds Hall of Fame) a long time and I don't think he would tell me otherwise. I was really just curious if others had gone to or knew about the area. I also did a search on the USGS site. It took awhile, but I did find the following location info. (see below national mapping info). You can add shattuckite from Tantara, Katanga, Democratic Republic of Congo to the list. I apologize to the group for this post being a little long. Figured the info below might be of interest. -Ron National Mapping Information ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Feature Name: Jacobs Ladder Feature Type: slope Place Code: No place code information State: Utah County: Utah USGS 7.5' x 7.5' Map: Lehi Latitude: 402947N Longitude: 1114736W View USGS Digital Raster Graphic (DRG) covering this feature from TerraServer. A DRG is a digitized version of a USGS topographic map. Visit the USGS Digital Backyard for more information. View USGS Digital Orthophoto Quadrangle (DOQ) covering this feature from TerraServer. A DOQ is a black-and-white, aerial photographic image map. Note that images are not available for all locations. Visit the USGS Digital Backyard for more information. Show Feature Location using maps produced from the U.S. Census Bureau's Tiger Map Server. Find the Watershed for this feature using the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's site. U.S. Department of the Interior || U.S. Geological Survey 12201 Sunrise Valley Drive, Reston, VA 20192, USA URL: http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form Maintainer: gnis_manager@usgs.gov Last modified: November 1, 2000 USGS Privacy Policy and Disclaimers > > I do list shattuckite from the following: > Shattuckite - {Jack Pot mine}, Co. unknown, {New Cornelia mine}, [Ajo], > Pima Co., {Roadside mine}, {San Manuel mine}, [[Mammoth District]], Pinal > Co., [[Clifton-Morenci District]], Greenlee Co., {Moon Anchor mine}, > {Potter-Cramer mine}, [S of Wickenburg], Maricopa Co., [New Water > Mountains], Yuma Co., {Shattuck mine}, [Bisbee], [[Warren District]], > Cochise Co., AZ; {Defense mine}, [E Argus Mountains], [[Modoc District]], > Inyo Co., CA; {Kelly mine}, [[Magdalena District]], Socorro Co., NM; {Betty > Jo prospect}, [near Ely], [[Robinson (Ely, [Ruth], Kimberly) District]], > White Pine Co., NV > > Does anyone know of a Jack Pot mine in Arizona? > > Van From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Jul 11 18:40:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Lawrence Rush) Date: Fri Jul 11 17:40:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Art Smith. Jr. (Houston) Message-ID: <003401c3480e$1deb2e80$76af5a0c@fekib> I have been trying to reach Art Smith at his published e-mail address, mineraldesign@aol.com with no success (it bounces). Does anyone know if he has a new one? Larry Rush www.mineralstotrade.homestead.com "Noel Coward thought work was more fun than play, but he never, ever worked in the mines" From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Jul 11 20:13:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Williams) Date: Fri Jul 11 19:13:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Shattuckite References: <4d.32228b77.2c3f5c6b@aol.com> <001701c347b8$1b3f6580$54315841@powertech.net> <001501c347c8$5fde47a0$c3ff4342@nathanqa8gl7gx> Message-ID: <001101c3481a$fc7ce920$0b48d7cf@Williams> Van & Ron, Having been born and raised in Utah and spent many years collecting minerals from the areas that would have Shattuckite if it was there, I would not be surprised if it was there,however, I don't know if it has been found there yet. I do know that what was previously called Shattuckite was really Serpierite. Also, there is a Jackpot mine in Lyon county,Nev. but it is known for the Serpierite and not for Shattuckite. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Van" To: Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Re: Shattuckite > Searched my database and found no "Jacob" in a locality name except in > Pennsylvania and North Carolina. How sure are you that you have shattuckite? > > I do list shattuckite from the following: > Shattuckite - {Jack Pot mine}, Co. unknown, {New Cornelia mine}, [Ajo], > Pima Co., {Roadside mine}, {San Manuel mine}, [[Mammoth District]], Pinal > Co., [[Clifton-Morenci District]], Greenlee Co., {Moon Anchor mine}, > {Potter-Cramer mine}, [S of Wickenburg], Maricopa Co., [New Water > Mountains], Yuma Co., {Shattuck mine}, [Bisbee], [[Warren District]], > Cochise Co., AZ; {Defense mine}, [E Argus Mountains], [[Modoc District]], > Inyo Co., CA; {Kelly mine}, [[Magdalena District]], Socorro Co., NM; {Betty > Jo prospect}, [near Ely], [[Robinson (Ely, [Ruth], Kimberly) District]], > White Pine Co., NV > > Does anyone know of a Jack Pot mine in Arizona? > > Van > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Faceter01" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:08 AM > Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Shattuckite > > > > Hi, > > > > Are any of the members on here that are from Utah familiar with an area > > called Jacob's Ladder in Utah County? It's listed in the USGS as a > "slope." > > I have some Shattuckite from there collected by an older geologist many > > years ago and was wondering if anyone else from the area has collected any > > from there. > > > > Ron > > _______________________________________________ > > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > > Subscription Services: > > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Jul 11 22:37:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (JOHN STOCKWELL) Date: Fri Jul 11 21:37:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] AGATE SHOW IN FRANCE? Message-ID: Hi, Any European members out there know about a 3 day (?) agate show held in = France? Where? When? Thanks, John --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Jul 12 02:41:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Lennart Borg) Date: Sat Jul 12 01:41:01 2003 Subject: SV: [Rockhounds] Re: Shattuckite In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Van, - You can also add Shattuckite from the Mesopotamia 504 Mine, Namibia in Africa to the list. There you can find nice azurite blue balls up to 8 mm. You can study pictures of them from the new book Namibia - Zauberwelt edler Steine und Kristalle by Uli and Anka Bahmann ISBN 3-925094-73-3. It is just 2-3 years old. Best Regards from Sweden Lennart Borg From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Jul 12 08:14:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Jim Daly) Date: Sat Jul 12 07:14:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Art Smith. Jr. (Houston) References: <003401c3480e$1deb2e80$76af5a0c@fekib> Message-ID: <001c01c3487f$3cc07c40$355204d0@jim> That's the address I have, except I have it as al caps. Are AOL addresses case-sensitive? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Rush" To: Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 7:39 PM Subject: [Rockhounds] Art Smith. Jr. (Houston) > I have been trying to reach Art Smith at his published e-mail address, > mineraldesign@aol.com with no success (it bounces). Does anyone know if he > has a new one? > > Larry Rush > > > > > www.mineralstotrade.homestead.com > > > "Noel Coward thought work was more fun than play, > but he never, ever worked in the mines" > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Jul 12 08:26:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Ronald Werner) Date: Sat Jul 12 07:26:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Art Smith. Jr. (Houston) References: <003401c3480e$1deb2e80$76af5a0c@fekib> <001c01c3487f$3cc07c40$355204d0@jim> Message-ID: <000b01c34881$82804010$08b09fc3@RW> I already informed Larry about Arthur Smith's new email adresse, but should rather have send it to the list. However, that meant connecting to my other ISP, because my list-subscription goes through my spare ISP. And this morning I was out of time, had to go to my job. Anyway, his new email adresse is: ARTSMITHITE@msn.com Ronald Werner Postboks 2 4733 Evje Norway rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Jul 12 13:27:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Mike Flannigan) Date: Sat Jul 12 12:27:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Jacobs Ladder References: <20030712010003.26553.82587.Mailman@bubbleator.drizzle.com> Message-ID: <3F106152.93C24411@earthlink.net> That Jacobs Ladder on the Lehi topo does not look like it is associated with a mine feature. It appears to be a steep ridge next to a "Lone Rock" formation. Mike Flannigan > National Mapping Information > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Feature Name: Jacobs Ladder > Feature Type: slope > Place Code: No place code information > State: Utah > County: Utah > USGS 7.5' x 7.5' Map: Lehi > Latitude: 402947N > Longitude: 1114736W > > View USGS Digital Raster Graphic (DRG) covering this feature from > TerraServer. A DRG is a digitized version of a USGS topographic map. Visit > the USGS Digital Backyard for more information. > > View USGS Digital Orthophoto Quadrangle (DOQ) covering this feature from > TerraServer. A DOQ is a black-and-white, aerial photographic image map. Note > that images are not available for all locations. Visit the USGS Digital > Backyard for more information. > > Show Feature Location using maps produced from the U.S. Census Bureau's > Tiger Map Server. > > Find the Watershed for this feature using the U.S. Environmental Protection > Agency's site. > > U.S. Department of the Interior || U.S. Geological Survey > 12201 Sunrise Valley Drive, Reston, VA 20192, USA > URL: http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > Maintainer: gnis_manager@usgs.gov > Last modified: November 1, 2000 > USGS Privacy Policy and Disclaimers From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Jul 12 15:40:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (S & C Weinberger) Date: Sat Jul 12 14:40:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Silence? In-Reply-To: <012801c346e9$cf754800$b13d27c4@horstspc> Message-ID: Hi Horst and Erika, Sure hope that your recovery is a smooth and rapid one. Thank goodness for hobbies like micromounting and writing which take little physical effort to do while recuperating from surgery. Carolyn and Steve Weinberger >Hi Everybody, > >Everso silent from my mailbox? Over the past week (on the 3rd of July) i >underwent a tripplebypass heart surgery. Got back home yesterday afternoon. >Thus I will not be able to communicate with you for some time. >I"m feeling tired and sore, but otherwise ok. > >Kind regards >Horst > > >_______________________________________________ >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >Subscription Services: >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Jul 12 18:27:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Ron) Date: Sat Jul 12 17:27:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Shattuckite References: <4d.32228b77.2c3f5c6b@aol.com> <001701c347b8$1b3f6580$54315841@powertech.net> <001501c347c8$5fde47a0$c3ff4342@nathanqa8gl7gx> <001101c3481a$fc7ce920$0b48d7cf@Williams> Message-ID: Hi Jim, > Van & Ron, > > Having been born and raised in Utah and spent many years collecting minerals > from the areas that would have Shattuckite if it was there, I would not be > surprised if it was there,however, I don't know if it has been found there > yet. I do know that what was previously called Shattuckite was really > Serpierite. > > Jim > I did some research on Serpierite (the net and Dana's Mineralogy) and it appears to be a wrong color and has a crystal formation unlike the specimens I have. I think I may have a specimen around here somewhere I can send you and see what you think. Just send your Snail Mail to Faceter01@hotmail.com. I'll be in Maine for a week and may not be able to get back to you right away. -Ron From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Jul 12 19:14:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Williams) Date: Sat Jul 12 18:14:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Shattuckite References: <4d.32228b77.2c3f5c6b@aol.com> <001701c347b8$1b3f6580$54315841@powertech.net> <001501c347c8$5fde47a0$c3ff4342@nathanqa8gl7gx> <001101c3481a$fc7ce920$0b48d7cf@Williams> Message-ID: <001001c348db$fde5f650$2348d7cf@Williams> Ron, Thanks but I have samples of both minerals from several different places. Serpierite is a deep blue in most cases and does tend to get a little lighter blue with exposure which does happen on occasions. Shattuckite is a medium blue depending on the trace elements and can go to a deep blue as well--ei, the Superior mine in Arizona. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron" To: Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Re: Shattuckite > Hi Jim, > > > Van & Ron, > > > > Having been born and raised in Utah and spent many years collecting > minerals > > from the areas that would have Shattuckite if it was there, I would not be > > surprised if it was there,however, I don't know if it has been found there > > yet. I do know that what was previously called Shattuckite was really > > Serpierite. > > > > Jim > > > > I did some research on Serpierite (the net and Dana's Mineralogy) and it > appears to be a wrong color and has a crystal formation unlike the specimens > I have. > I think I may have a specimen around here somewhere I can send you and see > what you think. Just send your Snail Mail to Faceter01@hotmail.com. I'll be > in Maine for a week and may not be able to get back to you right away. > > -Ron > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Jul 12 23:53:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Bob Loeffler) Date: Sat Jul 12 22:53:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Art Smith. Jr. (Houston) In-Reply-To: <001c01c3487f$3cc07c40$355204d0@jim> Message-ID: Hi Jim, No e-mail addresses are case-sensitive. Upper-case letters just make the e-mail addresses easier to understand sometimes, like distinguishing a lowercase "L" (l) from the number "1". Mine is bobl@peaktopeak.com, but you can also use BobL@peaktopeak.com if you want. They should be treated the same by all mail servers. Regards, Bob Loeffler Field Trip Chairman and Webmaster North Jeffco Gem & Mineral Club (Arvada, CO USA) http://www.peaktopeak.com/minerals/njeffco/ and a member of the Rock & Mineral Society (RAMS) Check out the largest Colorado Rockhounding website at: http://www.peaktopeak.com/minerals/colorado/ -----Original Message----- From: rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com [mailto:rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com]On Behalf Of Jim Daly Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 8:09 AM To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Art Smith. Jr. (Houston) That's the address I have, except I have it as al caps. Are AOL addresses case-sensitive? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Rush" To: Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 7:39 PM Subject: [Rockhounds] Art Smith. Jr. (Houston) > I have been trying to reach Art Smith at his published e-mail address, > mineraldesign@aol.com with no success (it bounces). Does anyone know if he > has a new one? > > Larry Rush > > > > > www.mineralstotrade.homestead.com > > > "Noel Coward thought work was more fun than play, > but he never, ever worked in the mines" > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > _______________________________________________ Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds Subscription Services: http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sun Jul 13 09:44:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kreigh Tomaszewski) Date: Sun Jul 13 08:44:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Art Smith. Jr. (Houston) References: Message-ID: <3F117E12.22F8@Tomaszewski.net> RFCs 2821-2822 that define the SMTP protocol used for email specify that the userid to the left of the '@' in an address may be case sensitive, but the domaon portion to the right of the '@' must be case insensetive. In practice most mail systems treat the entire address as case insensetive. Bob Loeffler wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > No e-mail addresses are case-sensitive. Upper-case letters just make the > e-mail addresses easier to understand sometimes, like distinguishing a > lowercase "L" (l) from the number "1". Mine is bobl@peaktopeak.com, but you > can also use BobL@peaktopeak.com if you want. They should be treated the > same by all mail servers. > > Regards, > > Bob Loeffler > Field Trip Chairman and Webmaster > North Jeffco Gem & Mineral Club (Arvada, CO USA) > http://www.peaktopeak.com/minerals/njeffco/ > and a member of the Rock & Mineral Society (RAMS) > > Check out the largest Colorado Rockhounding website at: > http://www.peaktopeak.com/minerals/colorado/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com > [mailto:rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com]On Behalf Of Jim Daly > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 8:09 AM > To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com > Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Art Smith. Jr. (Houston) > > That's the address I have, except I have it as al caps. Are AOL addresses > case-sensitive? > Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lawrence Rush" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 7:39 PM > Subject: [Rockhounds] Art Smith. Jr. (Houston) > > > I have been trying to reach Art Smith at his published e-mail address, > > mineraldesign@aol.com with no success (it bounces). Does anyone know if he > > has a new one? > > > > Larry Rush From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sun Jul 13 14:51:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Italian Minerals) Date: Sun Jul 13 13:51:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] TOURMALINES from Isola Elba, Italy Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20030712153215.00e6a6e8@popmail.libero.it> Hi there ! pegmatite minerals and tourmalines are my favorite rocks and so this year I dedicated 2 weeks of search (and vacation!) on this wonderful italian island. You should visit it ! I am still on Elba and I have found some nice crystallized material. Many terminated crystals from this famous location, type locality of ELBAITE. The first specimens have been already prepared and photographed while being here and in fact a page with this rocks can be seen on our web site: http://www.ItalianMinerals.com Updates to this TOURMALINE page will be done every 2 days or so, so that to show you what we have found and made available for you ! Regards, Alessandro ItalianMinerals.com ============================= Italian Minerals http://www.italianminerals.com ============================= From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sun Jul 13 17:12:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Sherry Pauley) Date: Sun Jul 13 16:12:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] AD-eBay: Carcharocles megaladon sharktooth Message-ID: I have listed on ebay, 2 Carcharocles megaladon sharkteeth from Sharktooth Hill, Kern County, CA. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2183709467&category=15917 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2183707338&category=15917 Thanks Sherry From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 14 15:11:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Italian Minerals) Date: Mon Jul 14 14:11:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] TOURMALINES from Isola Elba, Italy Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20030714230957.00e619d0@popmail.libero.it> Hi there ! pegmatite minerals and tourmalines are my favorite rocks and so this year I dedicated 2 weeks of search (and vacation!) on this wonderful italian island. You should visit it ! I am still on Elba and I have found some nice crystallized material. Many terminated crystals from this famous location, type locality of ELBAITE. The first specimens have been already prepared and photographed while being here and in fact a page with this rocks can be seen on our web site: http://www.ItalianMinerals.com Updates to this TOURMALINE page will be done every 2 days or so, so that to show you what we have found and made available for you ! Regards, Alessandro ItalianMinerals.com ============================= Italian Minerals http://www.italianminerals.com ============================= From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 14 18:09:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Wayne & Allison) Date: Mon Jul 14 17:09:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] help....gem trees? Message-ID: <3F13463E.6F846490@plateautel.net> I was hoping that someone on the list might be able to help me locate a dealer of Gem Trees....you know the little wire trees with gemstones on the end of each branch. A lot of rock clubs make them but I am needing about 50 of them and would like to get them at wholesale. Thanks for any suggestions. Allison From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 14 18:28:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Bob Loeffler) Date: Mon Jul 14 17:28:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Rockshop for sale in Mack, Colorado, USA Message-ID: Hi all, I was in Mack, Colorado yesterday and found out that the CG&M Rock Shop is going out of business (and is up for sale), so if you are in the area, or know someone who is interested in buying a rock shop "off the beaten path", here's the info: CG&M Rock Shop 970-858-0561 20 miles west of Grand Junction. Take exit #11 from I-70. Go north over the train tracks. The shop is on the left. Jewelry -- Lamps -- Carved Rocks -- Eggs Fossils -- Showcases and more. 20 - 50% OFF PS. I have no idea how much the shop is going to be sold for, so you will need to talk to the owner. Regards, Bob Loeffler Field Trip Chairman and Webmaster North Jeffco Gem & Mineral Club (Arvada, CO USA) http://www.peaktopeak.com/minerals/njeffco/ and a member of the Rock & Mineral Society (RAMS) Check out the largest Colorado Rockhounding website at: http://www.peaktopeak.com/minerals/colorado/ From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 14 18:54:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Mon Jul 14 17:54:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] help....gem trees? Message-ID: <1ca.dbdaad5.2c44a559@aol.com> In a message dated 7/14/03 5:09:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, digem@plateautel.net writes: > . A lot of rock clubs make them but I am needing about 50 of them and would > like to get them at wholesale. > Try Tom's Rock Shop in Chico, CA (530) 894-3010 and ask for Barbara. I wonder how you would ship that many? They take up a lot of space. Grant --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 14 21:39:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Stephen Douglas) Date: Mon Jul 14 20:39:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] help....gem trees? References: <1ca.dbdaad5.2c44a559@aol.com> Message-ID: <000b01c34a4b$634d0360$2702a8c0@WorkGroup> about 1 hour and 2 minutes before you forwarded it onto me. STeve ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] help....gem trees? > In a message dated 7/14/03 5:09:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > digem@plateautel.net writes: > > > . A lot of rock clubs make them but I am needing about 50 of them and would > > like to get them at wholesale. > > > > Try Tom's Rock Shop in Chico, CA (530) 894-3010 and ask for Barbara. I wonder > how you would ship that many? They take up a lot of space. > > Grant > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 15 07:16:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Van) Date: Tue Jul 15 06:16:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Shattuckite References: <4d.32228b77.2c3f5c6b@aol.com> <001701c347b8$1b3f6580$54315841@powertech.net> <001501c347c8$5fde47a0$c3ff4342@nathanqa8gl7gx> Message-ID: <006701c34ad3$1fcf73b0$c3ff4342@nathanqa8gl7gx> Good luck on finding the whereabouts of Jacobs Ladder and confirming the specimen is shattuckite and came from that location. I'll not add Congo to the list of USA minerals unless we actually successfully invade and conquer it. Van ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron" To: Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Re: Shattuckite > Hi Van, > > > Searched my database and found no "Jacob" in a locality name except in > > Pennsylvania and North Carolina. How sure are you that you have > shattuckite? > > Well, I do have shattuckite from other areas and the specimens from Utah > are the same steel gray/blue as the specimens from the other areas, and not > the brighter azurite blue. I did research it in an old mineral location book > a few years ago and it did mention shattuckite coming from the area. > I really can only go by what I was told. YES, I know, I know, don't > believe everything someone tells you, but, I know the geologist, Ted > Fredericks, (Geologist, > Teacher, and member of the Rockhounds Hall of Fame) a long time and I don't > think he would > tell me otherwise. I was really just curious if others had gone to or knew > about the area. > I also did a search on the USGS site. It took awhile, but I did find the > following location info. (see below national mapping info). > > You can add shattuckite from Tantara, Katanga, Democratic Republic of Congo > to the list. > I apologize to the group for this post being a little long. Figured the info > below might be of interest. > > -Ron > > National Mapping Information > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Feature Name: Jacobs Ladder > Feature Type: slope > Place Code: No place code information > State: Utah > County: Utah > USGS 7.5' x 7.5' Map: Lehi > Latitude: 402947N > Longitude: 1114736W > > View USGS Digital Raster Graphic (DRG) covering this feature from > TerraServer. A DRG is a digitized version of a USGS topographic map. Visit > the USGS Digital Backyard for more information. > > View USGS Digital Orthophoto Quadrangle (DOQ) covering this feature from > TerraServer. A DOQ is a black-and-white, aerial photographic image map. Note > that images are not available for all locations. Visit the USGS Digital > Backyard for more information. > > Show Feature Location using maps produced from the U.S. Census Bureau's > Tiger Map Server. > > Find the Watershed for this feature using the U.S. Environmental Protection > Agency's site. > > U.S. Department of the Interior || U.S. Geological Survey > 12201 Sunrise Valley Drive, Reston, VA 20192, USA > URL: http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form > Maintainer: gnis_manager@usgs.gov > Last modified: November 1, 2000 > USGS Privacy Policy and Disclaimers > > > > > I do list shattuckite from the following: > > Shattuckite - {Jack Pot mine}, Co. unknown, {New Cornelia mine}, [Ajo], > > Pima Co., {Roadside mine}, {San Manuel mine}, [[Mammoth District]], Pinal > > Co., [[Clifton-Morenci District]], Greenlee Co., {Moon Anchor mine}, > > {Potter-Cramer mine}, [S of Wickenburg], Maricopa Co., [New Water > > Mountains], Yuma Co., {Shattuck mine}, [Bisbee], [[Warren District]], > > Cochise Co., AZ; {Defense mine}, [E Argus Mountains], [[Modoc District]], > > Inyo Co., CA; {Kelly mine}, [[Magdalena District]], Socorro Co., NM; > {Betty > > Jo prospect}, [near Ely], [[Robinson (Ely, [Ruth], Kimberly) District]], > > White Pine Co., NV > > > > Does anyone know of a Jack Pot mine in Arizona? > > > > Van > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 15 12:33:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (a.m.robbemond) Date: Tue Jul 15 11:33:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Looking for collecting sites in the South/West of England References: <3.0.1.32.20030714230957.00e619d0@popmail.libero.it> Message-ID: <000a01c34aff$50caf4e0$d02cfb3e@oemcomputer> Hello there, I'm planning a collecting trip to the Southwest of England (Sommerset, Dorset, Devon, Cornwall). Can anyone help me with collecting sites of minerals. Dumps, quarries, beaches .... all are welcome. I'm also interested in mineral-shops, museums, clubs or collectors in this part of England. Thank you in advance. André Robbemond The Netherlands From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 15 14:32:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (KATHY FRONK) Date: Tue Jul 15 13:32:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Gem Trees Message-ID: Gem Trees can be found at almost any mineral and gem show. Go to the Library and get a copy of Lapidary Journal or Rocks and Minerals mag, and check out show listings. The American Federation of Mineral Societies or the Midwest Federation of Mineral societies also have show listings. Check the internet or go to www.cigmc.com for a connection. Where are you located? Shipping can be a problem with those trees, but not if you drive to the show! Check it out! Good luck. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 15 20:42:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Don H) Date: Tue Jul 15 19:42:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] calcite, fluorite, quartz, & glass spheres needed for experiment Message-ID: <3F14BB45.4D2A29C6@att.net> Hi all, I am looking for some relatively inexpensive spheres for some optical experiments. I am hoping one can acquire spheres as small as 1", perhaps smaller, up to 3". They should all be the same size, and they should be relatively transparent or quite translucent. That may be difficult for the calcite, but I am thinking the colorless variety Iceland spar would fit the bill nicely. Please contact me off-list if there is a source. Thanks, Don From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Jul 16 08:23:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (earl verbeek) Date: Wed Jul 16 07:23:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] calcite, fluorite, quartz, & glass spheres needed for experiment Message-ID: Don- We have calcite, quartz, and perhaps glass at the Sterling Hill Mining Museum. The fluorite is iffy; probably not sufficiently translucent. Cheers- Earl Verbeek _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Jul 19 00:34:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Terri Collier) Date: Fri Jul 18 23:34:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Fw: Lapidary Saw and Polishing Equipment for sale in Richardson Message-ID: <001f01c34dbf$aeb22a70$a82efea9@terrimnm20ifrv> The following information was sent to me in case there's anyone = interested.... ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Seymour Zweigoron=20 Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 11:53 AM Subject: Lapidary Saw and Polishing Equipment for sale in Richardson I have 2 pieces of rock cutting and polishing equipment that belonged to = my wife. I am hoping to sell it to someone.along with her collection of = rocks that she never got around to cutting and polishing. I was hoping = to sell it on the internet.or possibly find someone in a local lapidary = group who might be interested. Do you have a spot on your website..or a = group newsletter possibly where I might advertise this equipment? I have = the following: a.. Star Diamond GP-8 (looks almost identical to GP-6 Cab = Grinder/Sander/Polishing Units at www.barrancadiamond.com ) a.. Star Diamond TS-10 Slab Saw or Trim Saw.not sure which a.. Supply of abrasives included a.. Lots of rocks collected around the U.S. Seymour 972-699-9634 Richardson, TX --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Jul 19 05:30:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (frank de wit) Date: Sat Jul 19 04:30:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Madoc fluorite References: <20030624233110.13874.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007401c34de8$f4c2e2b0$8d7ba8c0@cm333814LT> Hi all, also see: http://binn.strahlen.org/ for extensive info on Binn/Lengenbach cheers! Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Perry" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:31 AM Subject: RE: [Rockhounds] Madoc fluorite > Hi Rik, > > I just wanted to add a relative rarity factor for you. > I have seen a number of specimens from Lengenbach > quarry over the years and don't remember seeing any > from Madoc (doesn't mean I might have forgotten or > overlooked a few). Since I live in the USA which is > closer to Canada than Switzerland I would rate the > Madoc material a much tougher find. Good luck with > your search. > > Regards, > Stan > > PS. > Hope to see some of you in Bloomington, Indiana this > weekend. > > > --- Rik Dillen wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Obviously there is some interest in fluorite from > > Madoc, Ontario, Canada. That place is also very > > well known (or has been known) > > for its suite of rare lead sulphosalts (of which for > > about 8 or 9 Madoc is even the type - and for some > > the only - locality). > > I am very interested in this locality because of its > > mineralogical analogy with the - also famous - > > Lengenbach quarry, Binntal, > > Wallis, Switzerland (lengenbachite, baumhauerite, > > sartorite, hatchite, wallisite etc...). > > If anyone could provide me with Madoc sulphosalt > > specimens I would be very glad (I'm after them since > > about 25 years !) if I could > > be contacted for an exchange proposal. > > Some examples : dadsonite, geocronite, guettardite, > > launayite, madocite, playfairite, robinsonite, > > sterryite, twinnite, veenite. I'm > > prepared to exchange e.g. very rare Lengenbach > > sulphosalts for Madoc sulphosalts. > > BTW in a 1982 article on the locality in "The > > Mineralogical Record", baumhauerite is mentioned > > with Madoc as type and only > > locality. That is very wrong, because the mineral > > has been found first in the Lengenbach quarry > > (already in 1902 !), and only in the > > sixties in Madoc. > > > > Greetings, > > > > Rik DILLEN > > Doornstraat 15 > > B-9170 Sint-Gillis-Waas > > Belgium > > > > Tel. + 32 3 7706007 > > > > ===== > Stan Perry > Our Gangue Minerals > www.emineralshow.com > Ebay seller ID rgangue > e-mail at rgangue@yahoo.com > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sun Jul 20 14:29:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Andy Parker) Date: Sun Jul 20 13:29:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Looking for collecting sites in the South/West of England In-Reply-To: <000a01c34aff$50caf4e0$d02cfb3e@oemcomputer> References: <3.0.1.32.20030714230957.00e619d0@popmail.libero.it> <000a01c34aff$50caf4e0$d02cfb3e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <3f1cf585.3665500@smtp.freeserve.net> Andre Sorry I don't know how to do the accent on a UK keyboard These are the clubs in my list for that area, the list is a few years old so if some of the leads are duff I apologise. Good luck. Andy Parker, Agate House Lapidary Ulverston, Cumbria, England andy@agatehouse.co.uk www.agatehouse.co.uk Tel: 01229 584023 Royal Geological Society of Cornwall Mr C Sparrow Cornwall Geological Museum Alverton Street Penzance Cornwall TR18 2QR 01736 332400 Devonshire Association Mrs P Thorman Torsmead Bovey Tracey Devon TQ13 9LQ 01626 833410 Dorset Local Group of the Geologists Association Miss P White 10 Dorchester Road Maiden Newton Dorchester Dorset DT2 0BA 01300 320162 Plymouth Mineral & Mining Club Mr K Roberts Upper Shaugh Farm House Shaugh Prior Devon PL7 5HA 01752 839274 The Ussher Society Dr Colin L Williams Dept. of Geological Science University of Plymouth Drake Circus Plymouth Devon PL4 8AA 01752 233103 On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:31:31 +0200, you wrote: >Hello there, > >I'm planning a collecting trip to the Southwest of England (Sommerset, >Dorset, Devon, Cornwall). >Can anyone help me with collecting sites of minerals. >Dumps, quarries, beaches .... all are welcome. >I'm also interested in mineral-shops, museums, clubs or collectors in this >part of England. > >Thank you in advance. > >André Robbemond >The Netherlands > >_______________________________________________ >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >Subscription Services: >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sun Jul 20 14:30:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Sun Jul 20 13:30:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Miner's Ledger Message-ID: <7b.15bea141.2c4c55b1@aol.com> The Miner's Ledger Back in the desert hills, I found a crumbling mine that had been abandoned=20 for a very long time. A stone and stick or two,=20 through rotting frame I threw, to roust the rattle snakes, so I could see the place. Into the stope I went, lamp lit, head low, back bent, the old mine to explore. Also, to find some ore. Just inside the entrance, where lingered light of day, I saw where he had chanced to live a miner's way.=C2=A0=20 Against the wall, his things =E2=80=93 table with coffee pot, a wooden shelf with cans, and a crude wooden cot. Then, I went farther back to the interior, and soon in total black, the mine got scarier.=C2=A0=20 With my dim lamp alit, along old tracks I went, finding lots of tools, a sledgehammer and drill bits. It began to appear as if he were still here. Looking this way and that, I felt a prick of fear. I came to some rubble, at a bend of the tunnel, and all of a sudden, my hair stood on the ends! There was a funny smell. Then I looked down to see dynamite at my feet oozing a nitro gel.=C2=A0=20 Into a wall of gold, in holes drilled long ago, I saw old fuses go, oozing some more nitro. I was scarcely breathing, not ready for heaven yet, and, ever so slowly, I turned around and fled.=C2=A0=20 When back at the entrance, I paused to take a look. Sitting on his old bench I spied a crumbling book.=C2=A0=20 Usually in life, without a backward glance, to look through our old mines,=20 we do note get the chance. Now, this chance came my way, as I opened the cover of Pat Derry's diary and his mining ledger. His was a hard story of danger =E2=80=93 muck, drill, blast =E2=80=93 to find a lode of gold, and escape from his past. In 1883 he'd spotted mineral sheen. Drilling, blasting, mucking, he had followed the seam. Drill, blast, muck.=C2=A0 Drill, blast muck,=20 He worked on without luck. Yet, with each passing day, some treasure'd come his way. Quartz crystals in his light clear, sparkling, radiant. And, then a wall revealed of pure golden pyrite. But, supplies had run low. Apaches were about. He knew that he must go for help to Socorro. He'd do it tomorrow, after a final blast. But, alas, this page of the diary was the last!!!! JPS=20 7/18/03 Wild Rivers Campground=20 To Rex who has found old ledgers=20 and dynamite in old mines. To other friends who are exploring their old mines. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sun Jul 20 15:30:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (frank de wit) Date: Sun Jul 20 14:30:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] New localities on Strahlen.org Message-ID: <005901c34f05$e52df150$8d7ba8c0@cm333814LT> Hi all ! back from holidays, work again tomorrow :-( had a great time in Spain and Portugal ! There are now about 1.800 pics on http://www.strahlen.org/ Of which about 500 from last summer: -Spain, Berbes -Spain, Andara mining district, Picos d'Europe -Portugal, Michuel Vacas Cu-mine -Portugal, Vila Vicosa marble quarries -Portugal, Folgosinho -Portugal, Gestoso mines -Portugal, Moncorvo I was underground also at most of these locations A set pics of a drive-by car-trip to a number of famous old localities = around Viseu will be online shortly (Mangualde, Mesquitela, Tragos etc). Cheers! Frank --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 21 05:33:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Lewis Helfrich) Date: Mon Jul 21 04:33:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: [PetrifiedWood] Re: Wyoming/Utah trip suggestions References: <040096001FE72E409D695C2D27A6A1C901498D@FILEFISH.nwifc.wa.gov> Message-ID: <01ee01c34956$4cbee5a0$2e01fea9@computer> Hello, Well it's time to start gearing up for Bakersfield California's 2nd annual Rock and Mineral Rendezvous.The Rendezvous will be held at the Kern County Fair Grounds 1142 South P. Street Bakersfield , California March 20th & 21st 2004 from 9:00 A.M. to 5:00 P.M.with set up March 19th 8:00 A.M.. There will be vendors from all over the United States and abroad displaying and selling rocks , minerals , fossils ,gems stones, rough material , tools and equipment. There will also be Food vendors . There will be demonstrations through out the show . Grab bags and silent auctions . Come join us for a fun filled weekend the whole family can enjoy. Over 100 booths available , Shower facilities. Free Parking and Free Admission. Over night Dry camping available for rock clubs and organizations .** VENDORS WANTED** Spaces are 20' x 30 ' for $75.00 and 15' x 20 ' for $45.00 . Tables are available for rent for $ 10.00 each . Power is limited to around 20 spaces and there will have to be a charge of $10.00 and is awarded 1st come 1st served.If you are interested attending the show or becoming a vendor please contact Helfrich's Jewelry Creations 1723 Columbus Street Bakersfield , California 93305 or call (661)872-8230 or e-mail me at lewsrocks@netzero.net. Thank you and I hope to see you there.Lewis Helfrich's Jewelry Creations 1723 Columbus Street Bakersfield , California 93305 Ph (661)872-8230 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Messenger" To: ; ; ; ; ; ; ; Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 1:52 PM Subject: [PetrifiedWood] Re: Wyoming/Utah trip suggestions > > I would like to thank all those that replied to my initial posting > asking for suggestions on rock hunting areas in western Wyoming and > Northern Utah. Our vacation was great. We were able visit many > historical sites and some interesting geological features. > > Unfortunately I did not get a lot of rock hounding in. We had a bit of > rain while we where there and that made any travel off-road a dangerous > proposition for our mini-van. I decided to mostly stick to paved or > well graveled roads so that removed a lot of areas from consideration. I > did manage a short stop east of Oregon Buttes on the Tri - Territory > road for some palm wood before the rain started. Me and my son where > able to pick up a couple of fist size pieces and many smaller ones in > about a half hour of walking around. Much to my sons and daughters > delight we also found a Horned lizard that he was able to catch and > inspect for awhile. We also wanted to go to one of the Quarries around > Kemmerer and dig for fish fossils but the rain the night before made the > roads to the quarries impassable to our van. We did get to visit the > Fossil Butte National Monument and saw many beautifully preserved fish, > reptiles and other fossils. The detail of the preservation is amazing. > On our way out of Wyoming and into Utah I wanted to run down to the > Wamsutter area and look for turritella agate but the road conditions > where still marginal and the road to the top of the ridge looked a > little steep so we headed for Utah. On the way I did make another quick > side trip to the Cedar Mountains to look for some agate and jasper. The > gravel/dirt road to this site had dried out enough to make the trip > possible. We only stayed at this site for about an hour but I was able > to pick up a backpack full of various agates, jaspers and what I think > is zebra flint. While in Utah we visited Dinosaur National Monument , > Timpanogos Cave National Monument and then headed back to Washington. On > the way back I made one quick stop at Glass butte in Oregon and picked > up a sack full of gold sheen obsidian. > > I plan on visiting the Wyoming/Utah region again on a rock hunting only > trip sometime in the near future. I will keep all suggestions that > people sent in and hopefully will be able to get to more of them next > time. I will defiantly bring my 4X4 truck so road conditions should not > be as big an issue. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> > KnowledgeStorm has over 22,000 B2B technology solutions. The most comprehensive IT buyers' information available. Research, compare, decide. E-Commerce | Application Dev | Accounting-Finance | Healthcare | Project Mgt | Sales-Marketing | More > http://us.click.yahoo.com/IMai8D/UYQGAA/cIoLAA/zDfwlB/TM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > PetrifiedWood-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 21 05:33:23 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Mon Jul 21 04:33:23 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] The Miner's Ledger Message-ID: <6b.15a22c93.2c4b10a3@aol.com> The Miner's Ledger Back in the desert hills, I found a crumbling mine that had been abandoned=20 for a very long time. A stone and stick or two,=20 through rotting frame I threw, to roust the rattle snakes, so I could see the place. Into the stope I went, lamp lit, head low, back bent, the old mine to explore. Also, to find some ore. Just inside the entrance, where lingered light of day, I saw where he had chanced to live a miner's way. =20 Against the wall, his things =E2=80=93 table with coffee pot, a wooden shelf with cans, and a crude wooden cot. Then, I went farther back to the interior, and soon in total black, the mine got scarier. =20 With my dim lamp alit, along old tracks I went, finding lots of tools, a sledgehammer and drill bits. It began to appear as if he were still here. Looking this way and that, I felt a prick of fear. I came to some rubble, at a bend of the tunnel, and all of a sudden, my hair stood on the ends! There was a funny smell. Then I looked down to see dynamite at my feet oozing a nitro gel. =20 Into a wall of gold, in holes drilled long ago, I saw old fuses go, oozing some more nitro. I was scarcely breathing, not ready for heaven yet, and, ever so slowly, I turned around and fled. =20 When back at the entrance, I paused to take a look. Sitting on his old bench I spied a crumbling book. =20 Usually in life, without a backward glance, to look through our old mines,=20 we do note get the chance. Now, this chance came my way, as I opened the cover of Pat Derry's diary and his mining ledger. His was a hard story of danger =E2=80=93 muck, drill, blast =E2=80=93 to find a lode of gold, and escape from his past. In 1883 he'd spotted mineral sheen. Drilling, blasting, mucking, he had followed the seam. Drill, blast, muck. Drill, blast muck,=20 He worked on without luck. Yet, with each passing day, some treasure'd come his way. Quartz crystals in his light clear, sparkling, radiant. And, then a wall revealed of pure golden pyrite. But, supplies had run low. Apaches were about. He knew that he must go for help to Socorro. He'd do it tomorrow, after a final blast. But, alas, this page of the diary was the last!!!! JPS=20 7/18/03 Wild Rivers Campground =20 To Rex who has found old ledgers=20 and dynamite in old mines. To other friends who are exploring their old mines. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Jul 23 18:49:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Aaron Fox) Date: Wed Jul 23 17:49:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Apache tears, Ametrine (fwd) Message-ID: -- afox at drizzle dot com || http://www.drizzle.com/~afox "You can fix anything with a big enough hammer and a lot of duct tape" ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:35:44 +0100 From: J. Peterson Subject: Re: Apache tears, Ametrine Hi Armando, The "Apache tear" is indeed obsidian. It gets it's name from an Indian legend, something about the tears of the Apache tribe. I'm sorry I can't give you anymore info than that, purhaps a search on the net about legends would. Now you p From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Jul 23 19:10:03 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Don H) Date: Wed Jul 23 18:10:03 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Apache tears, Ametrine (fwd) References: Message-ID: <3F1F31DB.C8A7F276@att.net> Aaron Fox wrote: > > Hi Armando, > > The "Apache tear" is indeed obsidian. It gets it's name from an Indian > legend, something about the tears of the Apache tribe. I'm sorry I can't > give you anymore info than that, purhaps a search on the net about > legends would. Now you p I'm not sure what happened to this message, but I can finish it. Near Superior, AZ, there is a formation in which rounded obsidian occurs in perlite. Nearby is a rock formation called Apache Leap. As the legend goes, back in the days of the wild west, a regiment of U.S. Army had trapped a band of Apache on this mountain cliff. Rather than be captured, the Apache leapt to their deaths. The widows and maidens of the tribe, upon hearing this story, wept tears that turned to stone. There is also a legend about Cherokee Tears, with a slightly different twist: when the Cherokee were forced to relocate by the U.S., they traveled a long road called the Trail of Tears because of the sorrows the Cherokee nation endured. These tears also turned to stone. I do not know if the "Cherokee Tears" sold in rock shops are from the same source as the "Apache Tears." These rounded obsidian nodules are usually tumbled. They are transparent when small, though as they become thicker, it is more difficult to see light through them. Don From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Jul 23 19:40:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kreigh Tomaszewski) Date: Wed Jul 23 18:40:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Apache tears, Ametrine (fwd) References: Message-ID: <3F1F38B8.1A73@Tomaszewski.net> I received the same forwarded message below yesterday, but it was infected with the PE_Bugbear.B-O virus. I suspect someone on the list has an infected PC as I have also received a couple other infected messages today that appear to be related to postings from the list. Time to check your anti-virus software! Kreigh Aaron Fox wrote: > > -- > afox at drizzle dot com || http://www.drizzle.com/~afox > "You can fix anything with a big enough hammer and a lot of duct tape" > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:35:44 +0100 > From: J. Peterson > Subject: Re: Apache tears, Ametrine > > Hi Armando, > > The "Apache tear" is indeed obsidian. It gets it's name from an Indian > legend, something about the tears of the Apache tribe. I'm sorry I can't > give you anymore info than that, purhaps a search on the net about > legends would. Now you p > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Jul 26 19:15:02 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (nancy) Date: Sat Jul 26 18:15:02 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Nancy the newbie Message-ID: <3F2327CD.00000B.50041@nancy baltz.rochester.rr.com> Hi, thank you for welcoming me into the Rockhounds. I have been awed by stones, rocks, gems for a long time. I own many different stones that I have purchased (that way I know exactly what they are)! Plus I have a lar= ge collection of rocks and stones that I gathered from the earth (some I kn= ow some I just love) all around my home. I have been to Howe's caverns in upstate NY, and I have mined for herkimer diamonds,and found some in Herkimer, NY. I have a very large crystal that my nephew found and gave m= e many years ago. He has since passed on. I also have my great nephew tota= lly into rockhounding. I bought him a tumbler and invited him to come on-line with me to order stones for his birthday. My grandchildren are always bringing me stones and rocks and asking what they are. I guess I am trul= y a rock hound. I am 47 yrs. old live in Western NY (country living at its finest). I have 3 grown children, and 4 grandchildren. I have 2 dogs, 3 c= ats 3 birds, a rabbit, and a fish. I grow some herbs in my gardens, make soa= ps, lotions, and oils. And I am a rural usps deliverer on Sat. and vacations.= I study the magical properties of stones and I use alot of them for these properties. I also would love to become a lapidary, but so far I only subscribe to Lapidary Journal and drool.=0D As far as my favorite specimen, wow that's tough I love them all. I have= a geode of amethyst about 4 or 5 inches in diameter. That sits in my livingroom in lavendar buds. My favorite piece of jewelry is my charorite ring, and I have a great amber pendant with something in it. Probably ju= st a bubble but, I think its cool. Opals are my birthstone, so I love them a= ll. Oh and my brazilian amethyst ring. I love the brazil gems, they are so d= ark and gorgeous. I own a rock tumbler myself but can't bring myself to use i= t. I like all the rocks the way they are. Ok, thats it. I look forward to talking (or reading) with you all.=0D Nancy --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/related multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html image/gif image/gif image/gif --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Jul 26 20:23:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Dave West) Date: Sat Jul 26 19:23:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Nancy the newbie References: <0HIN00520SULEO@msgstore01.icomcast.net> Message-ID: <02a401c353e5$e2469ac0$6400a8c0@West> Welcome Nancy, I signed on to this list back around Jan/Feb and it has been wonderful. This is a great place to "eavesdrop" on those who have both knowledge and experience. As I have done that my ignorance has been replaced with knowledge and it hasn't hurt one bit! Enjoy the list. Enjoy the journey. DaveW ----- Original Message ----- From: "nancy" To: Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 9:15 PM Subject: [Rockhounds] Nancy the newbie Hi, thank you for welcoming me into the Rockhounds. I have been awed by stones, rocks, gems for a long time. I own many different stones that I have purchased (that way I know exactly what they are)! Plus I have a large collection of rocks and stones that I gathered from the earth (some I know some I just love) all around my home. I have been to Howe's caverns in upstate NY, and I have mined for herkimer diamonds,and found some in Herkimer, NY. I have a very large crystal that my nephew found and gave me many years ago. He has since passed on. I also have my great nephew totally into rockhounding. I bought him a tumbler and invited him to come on-line with me to order stones for his birthday. My grandchildren are always bringing me stones and rocks and asking what they are. I guess I am truly a rock hound. I am 47 yrs. old live in Western NY (country living at its finest). I have 3 grown children, and 4 grandchildren. I have 2 dogs, 3 cats 3 birds, a rabbit, and a fish. I grow some herbs in my gardens, make soaps, lotions, and oils. And I am a rural usps deliverer on Sat. and vacations. I study the magical properties of stones and I use alot of them for these properties. I also would love to become a lapidary, but so far I only subscribe to Lapidary Journal and drool. As far as my favorite specimen, wow that's tough I love them all. I have a geode of amethyst about 4 or 5 inches in diameter. That sits in my livingroom in lavendar buds. My favorite piece of jewelry is my charorite ring, and I have a great amber pendant with something in it. Probably just a bubble but, I think its cool. Opals are my birthstone, so I love them all. Oh and my brazilian amethyst ring. I love the brazil gems, they are so dark and gorgeous. I own a rock tumbler myself but can't bring myself to use it. I like all the rocks the way they are. Ok, thats it. I look forward to talking (or reading) with you all. Nancy --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/related multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html image/gif image/gif image/gif --- _______________________________________________ Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds Subscription Services: http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Jul 26 22:10:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kreigh Tomaszewski) Date: Sat Jul 26 21:10:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Nancy the newbie References: <3F2327CD.00000B.50041@nancy baltz.rochester.rr.com> Message-ID: <3F235069.5BAF@Tomaszewski.net> nancy wrote: > many years ago. He has since passed on. I also have my great nephew > totally into rockhounding. I bought him a tumbler and invited him to > come on-line with me to order stones for his birthday. > I own a rock tumbler myself but can't bring myself to use it. > I like all the rocks the way they are. Ok, thats it. I look forward to > talking (or reading) with you all. > > Nancy > Welcome Nancy! I agree with you that an awful lot of mineral specimens are too beautiful to change; I have a fair number of them in my collection that I hope are never cut, damaged, or polished/altered in any way. On the other hand, there is an awful lot of gravel and plain/ordinary mineral specimens that could be greatly improved by being polished in a tumbler; think about some of the ugly rocks you have seen and get curious about what lies under their surface. I think you should find some rough rocks (of close to the same hardness -- agates and quartz, or granites) and put your tumbler to work. You should be able to show your grand nephew something you tumbled after giving him a tumbler. The list can be a great source of information when you have good questions, but it can also be a great learning experience from the questions, answers, and the experiences/trip reports others give. I'm looking forward to your report of your first tumbling experience. Kreigh From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sun Jul 27 05:31:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Horst Windisch) Date: Sun Jul 27 04:31:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Silence? References: Message-ID: <025a01c35430$2f0ab4a0$2f3f27c4@horstspc> Hi Carolyn and Steve. Thanks for your recent e-mail. Today I walked through our suburb Groenkloof for 50 minutes non-stop, hich is quite an achievement as the guide-book says you do this in the fifth week at home (and I have only been home for three weeks now). However it will be a slow process before I get down to serious micrmounting, but taking matters in a positive frame of mind, day by day. Kind regards, Horst and Erika ----- Original Message ----- From: "S & C Weinberger" To: Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Silence? > Hi Horst and Erika, > > Sure hope that your recovery is a smooth and rapid one. Thank goodness for > hobbies like micromounting and writing which take little physical effort to > do while recuperating from surgery. > > Carolyn and Steve Weinberger > > > >Hi Everybody, > > > >Everso silent from my mailbox? Over the past week (on the 3rd of July) i > >underwent a tripplebypass heart surgery. Got back home yesterday afternoon. > >Thus I will not be able to communicate with you for some time. > >I"m feeling tired and sore, but otherwise ok. > > > >Kind regards > >Horst > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > >Subscription Services: > >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed text/plain (text body -- kept) application/msword --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 28 07:46:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Joe Mulvey) Date: Mon Jul 28 06:46:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] New to list Message-ID: <20030728134530.82250.qmail@web20006.mail.yahoo.com> Hi All! I've been collecting minerals since I was about 6 years old (I'm 42 now). We have just recently moved to Nashua, NH. I am looking forward to joining the Nashua Mineral Society. I've been looking on the Internet for good collecting locations and have found some but they are all questionable in the age of the messages I've culled from different archives. Does anyone know if collecting is still permitted at Beryl Moutain in South Acworth, NH or at the Westmoreland Mine in Grafton, NH? Also, I am trying to find more infor about the Palermo Mine n the same area. Lastly, well, at least for now! 8-) Does anyone on this list participate in swaps - some of my local (New England) minerals for samples of your local (say, Mid western US) stuff? I've always enjoyed the cubic crystals of galena and pyrite. I have a few pieces of rutilated quartz that I think are very cool. My collection is fairly large and is probably populated by 95% purchased items. I really want to start focusing more on catching my own! On digest for now, looking forward to hearing what you all have to say! Best Regards, Joe ===== Joe Mulvey Nashua, NH -- USA http://home.attbi.com/~mgag1 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 28 07:57:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Lawrence Rush) Date: Mon Jul 28 06:57:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] New to list References: <20030728134530.82250.qmail@web20006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003201c35510$1078dd60$fbaf5a0c@fekib> ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Mulvey To: Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:45 AM Subject: [Rockhounds] New to list > Hi All! > I've been collecting minerals since I was about 6 years old (I'm > 42 now). We have just recently moved to Nashua, NH. I am looking > forward to joining the Nashua Mineral Society. I've been looking > on the Internet for good collecting locations and have found > some but they are all questionable in the age of the messages > I've culled from different archives. > > Does anyone know if collecting is still permitted at Beryl > Moutain in South Acworth, NH or at the Westmoreland Mine in > Grafton, NH? Also, I am trying to find more infor about the > Palermo Mine n the same area. > > Lastly, well, at least for now! 8-) Does anyone on this list > participate in swaps - some of my local (New England) minerals > for samples of your local (say, Mid western US) stuff? > > I've always enjoyed the cubic crystals of galena and pyrite. I > have a few pieces of rutilated quartz that I think are very > cool. My collection is fairly large and is probably populated by > 95% purchased items. I really want to start focusing more on > catching my own! > > On digest for now, looking forward to hearing what you all have > to say! > > Best Regards, > Joe > > > > ===== Joe: Be sure and get to the Gilsum Rock Swap in June of each year. About 50 dealers and 8 or so swappers attend, along with several thousands walk-ins. A really good time. (Maybe you already do this; in that case...........sorry!) Larry Rush From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 28 09:12:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (relic hunter) Date: Mon Jul 28 08:12:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] New to list Message-ID: Hello and welcome to the list..I love to trade Gems and Minerals please let me know if your interested. You can reply or come to my site discussion forum for it's geared to Discussion and trading of Gems and Minerals http://www.Dirtyrockhounds.com Hope to see you there. Thanks, Craig Http://www.Dirtyrockhounds.com >From: "Lawrence Rush" >Reply-To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com >To: >Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] New to list >Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 09:56:35 -0400 > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Joe Mulvey >To: >Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:45 AM >Subject: [Rockhounds] New to list > > > > Hi All! > > I've been collecting minerals since I was about 6 years old (I'm > > 42 now). We have just recently moved to Nashua, NH. I am looking > > forward to joining the Nashua Mineral Society. I've been looking > > on the Internet for good collecting locations and have found > > some but they are all questionable in the age of the messages > > I've culled from different archives. > > > > Does anyone know if collecting is still permitted at Beryl > > Moutain in South Acworth, NH or at the Westmoreland Mine in > > Grafton, NH? Also, I am trying to find more infor about the > > Palermo Mine n the same area. > > > > Lastly, well, at least for now! 8-) Does anyone on this list > > participate in swaps - some of my local (New England) minerals > > for samples of your local (say, Mid western US) stuff? > > > > I've always enjoyed the cubic crystals of galena and pyrite. I > > have a few pieces of rutilated quartz that I think are very > > cool. My collection is fairly large and is probably populated by > > 95% purchased items. I really want to start focusing more on > > catching my own! > > > > On digest for now, looking forward to hearing what you all have > > to say! > > > > Best Regards, > > Joe > > > > > > > > ===== >Joe: Be sure and get to the Gilsum Rock Swap in June of each year. About 50 >dealers and 8 or so swappers attend, along with several thousands walk-ins. >A really good time. > >(Maybe you already do this; in that case...........sorry!) > >Larry Rush > > > >_______________________________________________ >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >Subscription Services: >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 28 09:56:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Dave West) Date: Mon Jul 28 08:56:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] New to list References: <20030728134530.82250.qmail@web20006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003f01c35520$adf45050$6600a8c0@CPQ28298264587> Hello Joe, Welcome to the list. Hope you enjoy it almost as much as you enjoy the rocks and minerals. DaveW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Mulvey" To: Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:45 AM Subject: [Rockhounds] New to list > Hi All! > I've been collecting minerals since I was about 6 years old (I'm > 42 now). We have just recently moved to Nashua, NH. I am looking > forward to joining the Nashua Mineral Society. I've been looking > on the Internet for good collecting locations and have found > some but they are all questionable in the age of the messages > I've culled from different archives. > > Does anyone know if collecting is still permitted at Beryl > Moutain in South Acworth, NH or at the Westmoreland Mine in > Grafton, NH? Also, I am trying to find more infor about the > Palermo Mine n the same area. > > Lastly, well, at least for now! 8-) Does anyone on this list > participate in swaps - some of my local (New England) minerals > for samples of your local (say, Mid western US) stuff? > > I've always enjoyed the cubic crystals of galena and pyrite. I > have a few pieces of rutilated quartz that I think are very > cool. My collection is fairly large and is probably populated by > 95% purchased items. I really want to start focusing more on > catching my own! > > On digest for now, looking forward to hearing what you all have > to say! > > Best Regards, > Joe > > > > ===== > Joe Mulvey > Nashua, NH -- USA > http://home.attbi.com/~mgag1 > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 28 10:34:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Jim Daly) Date: Mon Jul 28 09:34:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] AD: Sauktown Sales Message-ID: <003401c35513$112ce3c0$245204d0@jim> Sauktown Sales will be shutting down for two weeks for a collecting = trip. We'll be heading for the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, visiting = the Ishpeming show and Keweenaw week. We won't be able to respond to = E-mails or fill orders until August 11. Thanks for your patience. Hope to have some good stuff to add to the = list when we return. Jim Daly Sauktown Sales Microminerals and mounting supplies http://www.sauktown.com sauktown@adsnet.com or orders@sauktown.com --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 28 11:46:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (ItalianMinerals) Date: Mon Jul 28 10:46:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] AD - site update Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20030728194503.007b88c0@popmail.libero.it> Just a quick note to let you know that I have just updated ItalianMinerals web site with very nice specimen of TINZENITE and BROOKITE from Italy ! Visit these pages: http://www.italianminerals.com In the next couple of days a new group of turmaline and beryls from Isola Elba will be ready to show up ! Regards, Alessandro ===================== Visit us at: http://www.ItalianMinerals.com for quality minerals !! Check our auctions on Ebay at: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=itali anminerals ===================== From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 28 14:36:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Mon Jul 28 13:36:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re Cornwall Bridge Rock Shop Message-ID: <49.318ce197.2c56e2fa@aol.com> Monday 7/28/03 For the past eight years I have been commuting each month from New York City to Pittsfield Mass. between my job in NYC and my planned retirement home in the Berkshire mountains. I made the trip by bus and the route it takes follows route 7 thru Connecticutt, passing thru/stopping at a small town called Cornwall Bridge. Just south of this stop I, early on, noticed a nondescript building on the roadside sporting a crude sign saying "Rock Shop". In all these years I've not seen any sign that the shop is inhabited or open. The place is far enough from both ends of my trip to make it unlikely that I'd ever find it worth while to visit to see if there was anything there worth caring about. Until this last Friday (7/25/03)! I wasn't paying any particular attention as we passed the site so I only got a fast glimpse but what I saw was a lot of stuff spread out on the ground around the building as if someone was having a tag sale. My question is - does anyone on the network know anything about this? Is there anyone who lives close enough to Cornwall Bridge to be able to pop over and see what gives? Just a wild question! Jim Groves jg81638@aol.com From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 28 19:27:26 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (J. R. Hodel) Date: Mon Jul 28 18:27:26 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Dennis Davis: Cutting oil, etc Message-ID: <20030729012652.39394.qmail@web41013.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Dennis: I don't know much about these listservs, but I may be able to help. I live in WV too, but in another state from the WV you live in. I'm SW of Charleston about 20 miles, and Indiana is closer than Cumberland! Well, close anyway! There are a lot of places to collect here in the east, but you're right, the green fuzzies cover a lot of rock up. We look in dry gullys, below ridges where fossils or geodes or silicified things Ilike corals) erode out into the ephemerial streams. When a dry spell shows up, we walk the creeksbeds and collect. Other places are abandoned quarries, road cuts, RR cuts, frequently abandoned also, and stream banks. Interstate road cuts, with a bench every 20 feet rising up for 150 feet make great collecting spots in the right geology. Most of WV and KY are sedimentary. But KY also has fluorite minig districts, and many geodes found in KY have interesting crystals inside. We collect along I-64 in KY, and near Maysville, right on the Ohio River, there are a ton of devonian (I think) marine fossils. We've found cephalopod shells, many rugose corals, bryzoams, sponges, cup coral, sometimes hollow with quartz crystals inside. NEarer to your panhandle area, there is probably better collecting in VA than WV, although the only IG outcropps in WV are in the very easternmost of the panhandle. There are a couple of rock shops in / near Pittspurgh PA. Sometimes they show at the Carnegie Museum Rock and Gem show, I believe in November this fall. http://www.universaltreasures.com/home.htm is one that might have the cutting oil you need. http://www.carnegiemuseums.org/cmnh/minerals/gemshow/dealers.htm is the link for the show - I go every year, and there's a de-acquisition auction where wonderful minerals and lots are sold by participating museums. It's the most rock fun I have indoors! Machine shops and industrial supply houses also carry oils for cutting machinery, like Grainger - they only sell to corporate customers, but I've always been able to buy from them if I'm persistent - here in WV they're probably used to the do-it-yourself type customers. There are a ton of good collecting spots in PA, MD, and VA and even in WV, but you have to look harder - they aren't as popular/famous as the ones out west. But google and mindat.org help people find localities. Franklin and Sterling NJ are within reach of folks from the panhandle for a weekend trip - the most famous dumps in the world for fluorescent minerals! Keep in touch! I'm jr50wv@yahoo.com if you have specific questions or want to come west to KY some weekend. We could find a truckload of fossils, geodes and crystaals. We do find truckloads...whenever we make time to go. We also go up into Ohio, south to VA or NC, North to Maine (!! - one word: tourmaline!!) etc. Or West to Wy, CO, AZ, etc. Keep on rockin" JR Hodel Hamlin WV --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Jul 28 21:54:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kreigh Tomaszewski) Date: Mon Jul 28 20:54:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] New to list References: <20030728134530.82250.qmail@web20006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3F25EFA0.1F0@Tomaszewski.net> Joe Mulvey wrote: > Grafton, NH? Also, I am trying to find more infor about the > Palermo Mine n the same area. The Palermo has a third of a page in New Hampshire Mines and Mineral Locations by Philip Morrill and appears to be an impressive location. Its a publication you might want to look up. From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 29 10:55:59 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Joan Mammarella) Date: Tue Jul 29 09:55:59 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Nancy the newbie References: <3F2327CD.00000B.50041@nancy baltz.rochester.rr.com> Message-ID: <001701c355f1$29519e80$a5640b42@jlmbase> Dear Nancy, I like you am thoroughly in love with rocks. I am a little older than you but with similar backgrounds. All my life I have lover anything about the earth but with a family and working 60 to 90 hours a week in our business I never had time to really pursue my interests. I the late 60's I made the crazy mistake of asking my in-laws to go on our family vacation to Colorado and Wyoming. We were camping out and they had never done this. Well, it rained every day, I found out my father-in-law was claustrophobic, and mom expected three course meals three times a day. With four little children and a husband that was about to have a nervous breakdown you can imagine how frustrated I got. Everyone was bickering and I had run out of things to keep them busy and occupied. We were in the Grand Tetons trying to wait out a monstrous storm when I finally broke. I started picking up cobbles and throwing them down as hard as I could. One broke open and inside was a fossil. I got everyone looking for fossils. Next I bought a Little Golden book on Rocks & Minerals. For the rest of the 18 day trip we collected rocks, When a can of vegetable came out of the pantry a rock went in its place, just like Lucille Ball in "The Long, Long Trailer" This was the start of my love for rocks. For almost thirty years I keep my interest even if I could not pursue it more than an occasional stop a rock shop. In 1993, through a weird chain of events I won a college scholarship. I had never even graduated highschool and here I was with the opportunity to follow any course I wanted. Everyone wanted me to take Business Administration because I had been very successful in business, but I followed my heart and went for a B.S. in Geology. I got a lot of flack from my husband and in-laws but when I made it clear after the second year of school that if they keep it up and I had to make a choice between my marriage including the in-laws and school, School would win. I did persist and in1997 I graduated Magnum Cum Laude with a B.S. in Geology. That was 6 years ago and now along with my love of everything about geology I have branched out to collecting mineral specimens, cutting and polishing stones, and working with gold and silver. My favorite gem to cut is opal and I would never learned how to do any of this if it wasn't for a little lapidary school in Georgia. They have classes from May through October and it is very reasonable. If you get a chance look up The William Holland Lapidary School on the web. They can help you learn many different crafts. If you do not belong to a rockhound club I urge you to join one. I have been the President of the Calumet Gem and Mineral Society for the last two years and it's very nice when you can talk to people with the same interests. Most people think we are weird but they just don't know what they are missing. I wish the curse of addiction to rocks and minerals and everything in the lapidary field, on you. It's the one addiction that I never want to be cured of. You'll injoy this group. Joan . ----- Original Message ----- From: "nancy" To: Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 8:15 PM Subject: [Rockhounds] Nancy the newbie > Hi, thank you for welcoming me into the Rockhounds. I have been awed by > stones, rocks, gems for a long time. I own many different stones that I > have purchased (that way I know exactly what they are)! Plus I have a large > collection of rocks and stones that I gathered from the earth (some I know > some I just love) all around my home. I have been to Howe's caverns in > upstate NY, and I have mined for herkimer diamonds,and found some in > Herkimer, NY. I have a very large crystal that my nephew found and gave me > many years ago. He has since passed on. I also have my great nephew totally > into rockhounding. I bought him a tumbler and invited him to come on-line > with me to order stones for his birthday. My grandchildren are always > bringing me stones and rocks and asking what they are. I guess I am truly a > rock hound. I am 47 yrs. old live in Western NY (country living at its > finest). I have 3 grown children, and 4 grandchildren. I have 2 dogs, 3 cats > 3 birds, a rabbit, and a fish. I grow some herbs in my gardens, make soaps, > lotions, and oils. And I am a rural usps deliverer on Sat. and vacations. I > study the magical properties of stones and I use alot of them for these > properties. I also would love to become a lapidary, but so far I only > subscribe to Lapidary Journal and drool. > As far as my favorite specimen, wow that's tough I love them all. I have a > geode of amethyst about 4 or 5 inches in diameter. That sits in my > livingroom in lavendar buds. My favorite piece of jewelry is my charorite > ring, and I have a great amber pendant with something in it. Probably just > a bubble but, I think its cool. Opals are my birthstone, so I love them all. > Oh and my brazilian amethyst ring. I love the brazil gems, they are so dark > and gorgeous. I own a rock tumbler myself but can't bring myself to use it. > I like all the rocks the way they are. Ok, thats it. I look forward to > talking (or reading) with you all. > Nancy > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/related > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > image/gif > image/gif > image/gif > --- > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 29 11:58:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (DANIEL-HARRY STEWARD) Date: Tue Jul 29 10:58:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Horray For Joan! Message-ID: <01e501c355fb$cca937a0$78320343@uswest.net> Joan...your story was fantastic! I especially liked the idea of telling = family that it was time your life and geology came first. What a = wonderful thing you did for yourself and I am sure the lives of everyone = around you have changed and improved. Seize the day! Danny / Seattle --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 29 14:50:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Tue Jul 29 13:50:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Nancy the newbie Message-ID: <7BB1E6FF.729A51B4.02180873@aol.com> Joan: For clarification... Calumet as in Indiana? Gene Hartstein From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 29 15:16:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kitty & Bill Heacox) Date: Tue Jul 29 14:16:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: Hurray For Joan! In-Reply-To: <01e501c355fb$cca937a0$78320343@uswest.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030729112903.0233a720@mail.aloha.net> At 08:04 AM 7/29/2003, you wrote: >Joan...your story was fantastic! I especially liked the idea of telling >family that it was time your life and geology came first. What a >wonderful thing you did for yourself and I am sure the lives of everyone >around you have changed and improved. Seize the day! > >Danny / Seattle Yes, indeed, Hurray for Joan! Great story, great attitude, great advice! Aloha, Kitty PS to the list---we're back from New Zealand and I'll write a brief report soon. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 6/18/2003 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed text/plain (text body -- kept) text/plain (text body -- kept) --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 29 15:22:05 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Nathan C. Martin II) Date: Tue Jul 29 14:22:05 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] New to list In-Reply-To: <3F25EFA0.1F0@Tomaszewski.net> References: <20030728134530.82250.qmail@web20006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030729164533.01ca9e08@po2.bbn.com> Joe, The Palermo #1 mine is a privately-owned mine that is still operated for gem aquamarine. The owner is gracious enough to give many clubs in the New England area permission to collect there. My club (Boston Mineral Club) went there a few weeks ago. However, as you probably realize this does not mean that it is OK to go there on your own without asking permission. Your initial email indicated that you were taking the right approach. By all means join the Nashua club right away. That will be your quickest way to get answers to your questions about local collecting areas. In addition, you also might want to consider joining another club that is a member of the North East Field Trip Alliance (NEFTA). Clubs in the alliance make some of their field trips available to members from other NEFTA clubs. For example, the Boston Mineral Club opened up trips to the VAG quarry at Lowell/Eden Mills, Palermo #1 and the Mahan River Lead mine to participation by members of NEFTA clubs this year. My review of the current list of NEFTA trips shows 21 field trips currently scheduled from August through November. If you want to expand your collecting opportunities you might want to join a NEFTA club in addition to the Nashua club. Some of the NH and Mass clubs in NEFTA this year are as follows: NH Clubs: Capitol Mineral Club, Concord Keane mineral Club, Keane MA Clubs: Boston Mineral Club (my personal favorite) North Shore Rock and Mineral Club Anyway welcome to the list and happy collecting! Nate Martin At 11:55 PM 7/28/2003, you wrote: >Joe Mulvey wrote: > > Grafton, NH? Also, I am trying to find more infor about the > > Palermo Mine n the same area. > >The Palermo has a third of a page in New Hampshire Mines and Mineral >Locations by Philip Morrill and appears to be an impressive location. >Its a publication you might want to look up. >_______________________________________________ >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >Subscription Services: >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds Dr. Nathan C. Martin Principal Scientist BBN Technologies, A Verizon Company 10 Fawcett Street, Cambridge, MA 02138 Phone: (617)873-3495 Office FAX: (617)873-2918 From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 29 15:33:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Tue Jul 29 14:33:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Sterling Mines Message-ID: <150.22288827.2c5841ec@aol.com> When I was a kid growing up in Suffern, Rockland County I used to go up to the Sterling Forest area and swim in the Old Mine shafts...I know that there were Zinc and lead mines in the area. Anyone have any old information about any of these areas. I just wanted to make note of them for I live in the Midwest and don't know if and or when I might make it back that way. Thanks and have a good day. For now and till then, JOHN --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 29 15:56:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Nathan C. Martin II) Date: Tue Jul 29 14:56:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Sterling Mines In-Reply-To: <150.22288827.2c5841ec@aol.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030729174746.01cfadd8@po2.bbn.com> John, Out of curiosity what state and/or country is that in? best regards, Nate Martin Lexington, MA At 05:32 PM 7/29/2003, you wrote: >When I was a kid growing up in Suffern, Rockland County I used to go up to >the Sterling Forest area and swim in the Old Mine shafts...I know that there >were Zinc and lead mines in the area. Anyone have any old information >about any >of these areas. I just wanted to make note of them for I live in the Midwest >and don't know if and or when I might make it back that way. > >Thanks and have a good day. > >For now and till then, >JOHN From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 29 16:50:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Tue Jul 29 15:50:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Sterling Mines Message-ID: <145.164ccf78.2c5853fc@aol.com> In a message dated 7/29/2003 6:04:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, nmartin@bbn.com writes: > >When I was a kid growing up in Suffern, Rockland County I used to go up to > >the Sterling Forest area and swim in the Old Mine shafts...I know that > there > >were Zinc and lead mines in the area. Anyone have any old information > >about any The old Sterling Mine and other mines in the Hudson Highlands are now part of the Harriman State Park or adjacent conserved land. They are very protective about the sites and do not want mineral collecting or artifact collecting. There is a great book called The Iron Mine Trails published by the NY/NJ Trail Conference that lists all the mines, history and how to find them. But don't get caught collecting... John Betts http://www.johnbetts-fineminerals.com --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Jul 29 22:18:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Tue Jul 29 21:18:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: new to list Message-ID: <104.337f52cc.2c58a0dc@aol.com> In a message dated 7/28/2003 8:03:37 PM Central Daylight Time, rockhounds-request@lists.drizzle.com writes: > Lastly, well, at least for now! 8-) Does anyone on this list > participate in swaps - some of my local (New England) minerals > for samples of your local (say, Mid western US) stuff? > Hi Joe, You bet I'll swap-what do you want from NE or SD? Welcome to the list, it's great to talk to rockhounds around the world. Susy McMahan Blue River Stones & Jewelry --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Jul 30 05:58:05 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Wed Jul 30 04:58:05 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: new to list In-Reply-To: <104.337f52cc.2c58a0dc@aol.com> Message-ID: <20030730115714.25825.qmail@web40910.mail.yahoo.com> I love to trade. Look at my website - http//www.wrightsrockshop.com. Let me know what you have and what you would like. I, also, buy excess stock. Chris Wright --- Blueriverjewelry@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/28/2003 8:03:37 PM Central > Daylight Time, > rockhounds-request@lists.drizzle.com writes: > > > Lastly, well, at least for now! 8-) Does anyone on > this list > > participate in swaps - some of my local (New > England) minerals > > for samples of your local (say, Mid western US) > stuff? > > > > Hi Joe, > > You bet I'll swap-what do you want from NE or SD? > > Welcome to the list, it's great to talk to > rockhounds around the world. > > > Susy McMahan > Blue River Stones & Jewelry > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds ===== Thanks, Chris Wright Wrights Rock Shop 3612 Albert Pike Hot Springs, Arkansas 71913 wrightsr@ipa.net __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Jul 30 08:51:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Joan Mammarella) Date: Wed Jul 30 07:51:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Nancy the newbie References: <7BB1E6FF.729A51B4.02180873@aol.com> Message-ID: <002101c356a8$feb9f4c0$19660b42@jlmbase> Gene, Yes, Calumet as in Indiana. Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Nancy the newbie > Joan: > > For clarification... Calumet as in Indiana? > > Gene Hartstein > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 31 07:52:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (David) Date: Thu Jul 31 06:52:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Gypsy's intro on collecting pebbles. Message-ID: <000001c3576a$bc9fb940$0400000a@DavidAlaptop> Hi all Yet another newbie on the list .. Am an Australian currently in Colorado. Been collecting pebbles since my parents took one away from me when I tried to eat it as a baby. Am still collecting pebbles today. Pebbles may not be the term - maybe rocklets - U see I have traveled all my life and a rock collection when u regularly change cites and countries is pretty stooopid so I collect littlie things. I also have a bad (or good depending on how u look at it) habit of giving my rocklets away to people when they show interest, sort of using my rocklets as seeds to grow fully fledged rock collections. One great advantage of collecting rocklets is that in shows u can wander around and look at what people have, u then pick up a rocklet that's broken off a larger piece and tell him the sad story of how u move and give them away. U can often get them to u good price. (I don't condone breaking them off when no one is looking - even though the thought has crossed my mind - )) What flipped me from a general interest in a colored pebbles collection to addiction (btw are there support groups if I ever try to kick it?) was while in NY NY a friend told me to come to Franklin NJ where we were allowed onto the mine remnants to collect florescent minerals. Now florescent light to me means acid rock and for some horrid reason I couldn't get disco fever out of my mind all the way there. It seemed strange to go out in the middle of a bright day with plastic glasses on (they say its gona protect ya from an attacking rock or sumfin), a rock pick (at least this looked menacing. I can fight back if those rocks attack), a medium carry bag (I immediately put a couple of beers in here - if I found great rocks I could eat the cans. I am Ozzie u see - if it is discovered I left car with empty pack when COLD beer in car can revoke my passport), a tiny little UV lamp with no power (U turn it on and it makes no difference in the midday sun... Not a great concept for a light. oh well if ozzie Osborn walks by can shine it on him make him feel at home) and finally thank god a blanket to put over ya head (well at least I can hide under the blanket and peeps wont see me, actually was a real quandary . do I use the blanket to hide under or to wrap the beer to keep it cold, I am sure there are entire monasteries in Tibet considering this as I type, well the Australian monasteries anyway ... but I digress oops ) OK off ya go with ya stuff to trench - more sort of a valley by the time I got there afraid I was not an early starter - oh well - but in the valley I can see people with blankets over their heads - ok this must be the place - Ill try anything once . Get down in valley - put blanket over - ok its dark.. Here we go.. - dam forgot to get light out of bag. Ok. take blanket off head - think to self that those Australian Buddhists were right should have wrapped beer in blanket to keep beer cool dam. then when I unwrapped blanket would have seen silly lamp and would have had cool blanket to put over head. Why they use black blankets anyway white ones reflect heat - never mind I digress again. Oops just dawned on me white blankets would ... OK this time for sure - rock hammer in one hand light in other hand, blanket in teeth - (I later learned that light in teeth was correct). Set Blanket over head - light on ground in front of me. have on glasses - the hammer is here - turn on light ... Suffice to say I spent the next 10 mins just moving around the grains of sand in the trench with my fingers then I moved a rock.. There should have been a warning label I was hooked !!!! mmm wonder if addiction was covered in that thing i signed. OK so why am I using up bandwidth with this rambling. Due to circumstances not entirely under my control I currently seem to have more time on my hands (read got caned). So I decided to do a few things I had often thought of trying, firstly did fly fishing but that is another story. So I decided that I was in Colorado and it was time to really try rockhounding so in my normal compulsive manner I built a system on my laptop and GPS (so it can be run from my car). Into this system I have downloaded all the mines in Colorado also lots of other things example all the springs - did my first test yesterday, went to find a spring yesterday drove for ages then walked to it - was exactly where it was supposed to be - nearly fell over - wouldn't have mattered if I did was a 2 foot sqr puddle with a tiny flow of water coming up from the sand.... oh well. Now for the confession - geology mmmmmm was not one of my biggies at school so basically my classification/collection method is the following: (Sorry the following is technical so for those not interested skip) I have a mental graph with one axis as size the other as coolness of rock. There is a large pickup area grouped on the - cool - small area - there is also a clump under really Cool and larger area - but it sadly collates with the drop later coz its heavy graph. (Technical over) So finally for the few who got this far here are the questions (whew) - I know they all can be found by searching (sorry) but I did enough searching to find out what datum are for my GPS (still looking for "datum for dummies" page if u come across it) Firstly: I guess I need a book - with lots of pictures that can show me me what I am looking at, both for individual specimens and for the geological structures where they can be found. Any suggestions of book or site with describing books (or may cards ?) would be wonderful. Secondly: Any groups or even individuals in Colorado that are doing or would be interested in Identification/collecting trips (small scale - remember rocklets - also for off road my Honda is well - mmm - pathetic ) around Colorado (or even neighboring states). I could help with any data or computer services needed. Thanks for letting me in the list and looking forward too collecting enough pebbles to stick this gypsy in one spot. Regards, David --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 31 08:03:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Henry Marek) Date: Thu Jul 31 07:03:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Introduction and a question Message-ID: <3964D8A3364FF2409E906A69E9A181EC35C95F@houexch300.corp.kbr.com> Everyone, a brief intro. I live in Houston and I have been chasing rocks for the last 35 years. Mostly in Texas(Big Bend), New Mexico, Colorado and Arkansas. The pressures of making a living and raising a family have cut back on my collecting time a good deal. I do still get away a couple of times a year to Arkansas for Quartz Crystals around Mt Ida. My question, what is the best polish for tumbling quartz. I have been saving all of the damaged crystals I find for tumbling, lots of nice clear pieces. My finished product has been less than I hoped for. I am using a rotary 15 lb Thumler's on 3 grits, 80, 220, and 600 and then the polish. I have tried tin oxide and aluminum oxide, and never seem to get that shiny finish that I would like. I tried filling the tumbler to the 90% level and extending the polish time to see if that made a difference. It did cut down considerably on the damage and the frosting, however the polish did not improve. Any suggestions. Thanks and take care Henry Marek From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 31 08:22:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Dawn M. Fredricks) Date: Thu Jul 31 07:22:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Gypsy's intro on collecting pebbles. Message-ID: (btw are there support groups if I ever try to kick it?) While I can say this is a support group, It's probably as close as you will come to one! Welcome! Dawn _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 31 11:50:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Joe Mulvey) Date: Thu Jul 31 10:50:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] re: New to list Message-ID: <20030731174909.37173.qmail@web20008.mail.yahoo.com> Hi All! First, I want to say thank you to everyone who has been so helpful and welcoming to me on this list! I've gotten a great amount of advice. I've skimmed the entire 2 years of archives. Next, I went to the Nashua Library last night hoping to join the Nashua Mineral Society. They've suspended meetings for the warm months. 8-( I can't blame them! Just as well - I ran out there after a softball game - I was very dusty and fairly bruised - I figured the members would assume I came straight from a dig! I intend to join NEFTA and visit sites in NH, ME and MA in August and September. I am very excited for that! I had asked about swaps and a lot of great people replied some on list, some off. All addresses have been saved. I was inquiring for the future more than the present. Of course, if I was visiting a locality that had nice things and I thought it worthwhile to take extra to swap with wonderful people from a thousand miles away, I certainly would be all over that! 8-) So, I did keep anyone who contacted me on file and will get back to you in the next month or two. I have a friend who does server and network installs and has been dispatched to Abu Dhabi on 2 week stints. He tells me that they have fish fossils for next to nothing in the market places there. The expense is in shipping. I gave him a couple of bucks for his next trip and am looking forward to his safe journey! 8-) Lastly, I start a week of vacation tomorrow. Will be heading out to Syracuse, NY via I90 om Thursday Aug. 7 for a wedding. Pretty busy through the wee hours of Sat. evening. Sunday I head east back to NH. What is the collective recommendation of the list - are there any "must sees" that I would just be crazy to skip? Thanks so much! You all rock! (Pun intended) Joe ===== Joe Mulvey Nashua, NH -- USA http://home.attbi.com/~mgag1 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 31 12:06:06 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Van) Date: Thu Jul 31 11:06:06 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] re: New to list References: <20030731174909.37173.qmail@web20008.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007501c3578e$48a03fa0$c3ff4342@nathanqa8gl7gx> Be sure to check out the Surry Iron mine in Surry, NH.Careful of the place you park as the road is steep and winds near the mine. Check out pyrite crystals in phyllite in road cuts in Lyme, NH. Van ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Mulvey" To: Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: [Rockhounds] re: New to list > Hi All! > First, I want to say thank you to everyone who has been so > helpful and welcoming to me on this list! > > I've gotten a great amount of advice. I've skimmed the entire 2 > years of archives. > > Next, I went to the Nashua Library last night hoping to join the > Nashua Mineral Society. They've suspended meetings for the warm > months. 8-( I can't blame them! Just as well - I ran out there > after a softball game - I was very dusty and fairly bruised - I > figured the members would assume I came straight from a dig! > > I intend to join NEFTA and visit sites in NH, ME and MA in > August and September. I am very excited for that! > > I had asked about swaps and a lot of great people replied some > on list, some off. All addresses have been saved. I was > inquiring for the future more than the present. Of course, if I > was visiting a locality that had nice things and I thought it > worthwhile to take extra to swap with wonderful people from a > thousand miles away, I certainly would be all over that! 8-) So, > I did keep anyone who contacted me on file and will get back to > you in the next month or two. > > I have a friend who does server and network installs and has > been dispatched to Abu Dhabi on 2 week stints. He tells me that > they have fish fossils for next to nothing in the market places > there. The expense is in shipping. I gave him a couple of bucks > for his next trip and am looking forward to his safe journey! > 8-) > > Lastly, I start a week of vacation tomorrow. Will be heading out > to Syracuse, NY via I90 om Thursday Aug. 7 for a wedding. Pretty > busy through the wee hours of Sat. evening. Sunday I head east > back to NH. What is the collective recommendation of the list - > are there any "must sees" that I would just be crazy to skip? > > Thanks so much! > You all rock! (Pun intended) > > Joe > > > > > > > > > ===== > Joe Mulvey > Nashua, NH -- USA > http://home.attbi.com/~mgag1 > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 31 17:52:24 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Lawrence Rush) Date: Thu Jul 31 16:52:24 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] re: New to list References: <20030731174909.37173.qmail@web20008.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000701c357be$bb100d60$4bb05a0c@fekib> ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Mulvey To: Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: [Rockhounds] re: New to list > Lastly, I start a week of vacation tomorrow. Will be heading out > to Syracuse, NY via I90 om Thursday Aug. 7 for a wedding. Pretty > busy through the wee hours of Sat. evening. Sunday I head east > back to NH. What is the collective recommendation of the list - > are there any "must sees" that I would just be crazy to skip? > > Thanks so much! > You all rock! (Pun intended) > > Joe ---------------------------------------------- If time permits, stop at the Crystal Grove Campground in St. Johnsville (it's on your way!). It's up on Lassellville Road about 3 miles north. Break rock at the lower ledge for an hour and you will find some beautiful "Herkimer Diamonds", clear, perfectly formed quartz crystals, loose in the cracks or attached to drusy matrix, Well worth the effort! Larry Rush From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Jul 31 19:32:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Thu Jul 31 18:32:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Re: New member David Message-ID: In a message dated 7/31/2003 8:13:22 PM Central Daylight Time, rockhounds-request@lists.drizzle.com writes: > Thanks for letting me in the list and looking forward too collecting > enough pebbles to stick this gypsy in one spot. > David, I have a feeling those rockhounds in Colorado will welcome you, no prob! Susy (in Nebraska) --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---