From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Mar 1 05:29:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (John P. Junkroski) Date: Sat Mar 1 05:29:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Thanks for my ongoing education! In-Reply-To: <3E54F956.000023.00988@anitaw.library.emory.edu> Message-ID: Dear Anita, Your note on the rockhounds list re-kindles a years-old interest in visiting Georgia. My wife and I are both teachers and avid rockhounds and the Weinman Museum is one of our favorite places. Mr. Santamaria was particularly friendly and helpful to us on our most recent visit. On our last few trips we've been much too rushed to do any serious collecting, but your mention of garnets and staurolites convinced me that we must make the time. Could you be so kind as to provide us with a contact at the GA Mineral Society and/or the Rome Club so that we can join? Thanks, John and Pat From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Mar 1 11:25:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Dave West) Date: Sat Mar 1 11:25:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Thanks for my ongoing education! References: Message-ID: <000b01c2e028$2529b840$59053c44@rome01.tn.comcast.net> John, I'm sure Anita will provide the contact for the Ga Mineral Society. One contact for the Rome club is: Kenn Lackey (editor of the club newsletter) P. O. Box 456 Lindale, GA 30147-0456 Dues are 15 or 20 bucks a year, I think. The President of the club is Lynn Batts. By the way, for those who may be interested, the club's annual show is scheduled for March 21-23--ROME, GEORGIA: Show, "Valley and Ridge Gem and Mineral Show"; Rome Gem & Mineral Society; Memorial Gym, W. 3rd St.; Fri. 9-6, Sat. 9-6, Sun. 12-5; contact Jose Santamaria, (706) 233-9828. DaveW ----- Original Message ----- From: "John P. Junkroski" To: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Thanks for my ongoing education! > Dear Anita,.......... ................> Could you be so kind as to provide us with a contact at the GA Mineral > Society and/or the Rome Club so that we can join? > > Thanks, > John and Pat From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Mar 1 11:31:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Sat Mar 1 11:31:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] a question about education Message-ID: <186.163c774d.2b926435@aol.com> A question, I've had since I was young, If someone takes a course in mineralogy, where can they apply this to as an occupation? --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Mar 1 12:30:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (mysfit) Date: Sat Mar 1 12:30:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] a question about education In-Reply-To: <186.163c774d.2b926435@aol.com> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20030301132029.00b151a8@pop.mindspring.com> One course in mineralogy won't get you a job...it's just one tool like thermodynamics is in chemistry. Mineralogy= chemistry, crystallography, systematic identification, thermodynamics, solid solution, basic physics, microscopy Gemology is one area that mineralogy would be needed in addition to a lot of other things. Field geology...crystal chemistry...some analytical work which involves x-ray diffraction The list is rather long in terms of what kinds of occupations could make use of 'mineralogy' At 02:29 PM 3/1/2003 -0500, you wrote: >A question, I've had since I was young, If someone takes a course in >mineralogy, where can they apply this to as an occupation? > > >--- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- >multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html >--- >_______________________________________________ >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >Subscription Services: >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Mar 1 13:43:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (J. A. Barwood) Date: Sat Mar 1 13:43:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] a question about education References: <186.163c774d.2b926435@aol.com> Message-ID: <3E611DE6.AABF9D3A@bluemarble.net> There was a time when mineralogists were employed by mining and oil companies. A fair number also worked for refractory companies characterizing both raw materials and finished products (I worked in this field for a while). Unfortunately, those days are basically gone. A few mineralogists work for environmental companies and as forensic examiners, but they are very limited opportunities. Most mineralogists today work in academia. Wish this were not the case, but facts are, that it is a dwindling profession populated with a rapidly aging membership. Henry Barwood Hammerron@aol.com wrote: > A question, I've had since I was young, If someone takes a course in > mineralogy, where can they apply this to as an occupation? > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Mar 1 17:10:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rocksndogs) Date: Sat Mar 1 17:10:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] reply to Margaret Malm Message-ID: <000c01c2e058$53563e20$362ae341@computer> My husband took the GIA gemology courses as well. He purchased all his = fluids and other equipment through GIA. Call them, they have a catalog. = What course are you on right now? Do you plan to be a certified = gemologist or graduate gemologist? I wish you luck in your classes! = Wife of rockhounding jeweler. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Mar 1 17:11:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rocksndogs) Date: Sat Mar 1 17:11:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] me again margaret Message-ID: <001701c2e058$93ecaaa0$362ae341@computer> He just came home- I asked him. He said go on line and get GIA's gem = trade lab catalog. You will find it there and more! Good luck --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Mar 1 20:01:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kreigh Tomaszewski) Date: Sat Mar 1 20:01:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] a question about education References: <186.163c774d.2b926435@aol.com> Message-ID: <3E6181F2.2FED@Tomaszewski.net> Hammerron@aol.com wrote: > > A question, I've had since I was young, If someone takes a course in > mineralogy, where can they apply this to as an occupation? The obvious answer is that a single course in any subject is not likely to give you an occupation. But there are many occupations where some understanding of mineralogy would be of benefit as the knowledge could be applied. The obvious occupations are in mining, petroleum, steel, and chemical industries that make use of minerals as raw materials. A better than passing knowledge of minerals would help you understand the business better because you already have a clue of what it is about. And this is true if you are entry level clerical staff, a computer programmer, or senior management (in finance). Another obvious area is sales -- if you are selling jewelry, equipment used for mining or mineral processing, or the products of any of the occupations already mentioned above. Less obvious is civil engineering and construction...and for the the same reason. Mineralogy is one of those subjects that opens many windows to further knowledge. It is one of the reasons many people find Rockhounding such an interesting hobby. The subject has layer after layer of understanding in many areas of study. Chemistry and Physics are the obvious suspects (along with Math); studying minerals helps you better understand how the universe works (often because of the associated knowledge from other studies that must be included for understanding). That is knowledge that can be applied in just about any occupation. Everything you use or eat was either grown or mined (some processing assummed in either case). Mineralogy is the intro course for everything that is mined. From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sun Mar 2 06:56:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Margaret Malm) Date: Sun Mar 2 06:56:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] me again margaret References: <001701c2e058$93ecaaa0$362ae341@computer> Message-ID: <002101c2e0cb$546e68a0$6c1fbed8@powertech.net> Uhhh -- I didn't ask that question-- Margaret kadok@infowest.com, in Utah's colorful Dixie ----- Original Message ----- From: "rocksndogs" To: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 6:10 PM Subject: [Rockhounds] me again margaret He just came home- I asked him. He said go on line and get GIA's gem trade lab catalog. You will find it there and more! Good luck --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- _______________________________________________ Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds Subscription Services: http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sun Mar 2 07:57:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Ronnie Van Dommelen) Date: Sun Mar 2 07:57:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] a question about education References: <186.163c774d.2b926435@aol.com> <3E6181F2.2FED@Tomaszewski.net> Message-ID: <3E622A2C.2080103@dal.ca> Hammerron@aol.com wrote: > A question, I've had since I was young, If someone takes a course in > mineralogy, where can they apply this to as an occupation? Also optics. Many lasers use doped crystals (ruby, sapphire) and work on the basis of fluorescence. Other lasers use crystals as frequency doublers (ex. green laser pointers) - somewhat like fluorescence in reverse - to generate different wavelengths of light. To make these devices work properly you need to know about the optical axes of the crystals. Lattice structures are also very important. Everyone learns early on how calcite produces a double image. This is because calcite separates in space, the two polarizations of light passing through it. This is called birefringence and can be very useful. The next generation of microprocessors will be built on a system that uses ultraviolet lasers. Typical glass lenses will not work properly at these wavelengths, so fluorite is being used to make the lenses. In this case birefringence is very bad. At first it was thought that fluorite did not have any important birefringence. Unfortunately, those conclusions were drawn from experiments using red light. At UV wavelengths is does have a small but very important birefringence. This makes the lens design much more difficult (and helped to delay development of the equipment). Understanding the properties of minerals helps us to understand the properties of many materials. There is a whole new area of research called photonic crystals where the microscopic structure of materials is engineered to produce desirable optical properties that can't be duplicated by a solid material. Opal is a natural photonic crystal. The color isn't produced by the material itself, but by the structure of the material. Again, knowledge of different crystal classes is critical to the design of photonic crystals. Later, Ronnie From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sun Mar 2 15:43:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rocksndogs) Date: Sun Mar 2 15:43:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Answer to question on occupations and minerology Message-ID: <000c01c2e115$54b66e80$6e37c843@computer> My husband has his Masters degree in mineralogy and geochemistry. He is = a jeweler. He uses his knowledge every day in assessing peoples = gemstones BEFORE he does any work with them. You would be surprised how = many jewelers out there in the market place really don't know much about = the stones they sell. GIA does the common ones, but a mineralogist can = handle them all. Even the "new" stones GIA is dealing with has already = been delt with by mineralogists. Mineralogists are taught how to = identify minerals many different ways, and all gemstones are minerals. = He is also an avid mineral collector and dealer (on a small scale) He = was in geo-technical engineering at one time, exploration geology, = mining, but jewelry work is where he really uses his knowledge now. It = has saved us thousands of dollars in avoided lawsuits because he knew = what he was looking at, even when the customer and the sales people = didn't! --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sun Mar 2 20:12:10 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Tony Kolodziej) Date: Sun Mar 2 20:12:10 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Interesting Book References: <000c01c2e115$54b66e80$6e37c843@computer> Message-ID: <3E62D59A.000001.01528@Family> =0D I was in Tulsa, OK, last week for a leadership conference sponsored by th= e American Association of Petroleum Geologists. As I perused the geologic bookstore set up for the meeting one title immediately caught my eye. Although this subject is not germane to the subject of rock collecting, I thought to share it with the list. The book is called "Terroir" by James= E. Wilson, and was published in 1999 by the University of California Press. = The subject is on the role of Geology, Climate, and Culture in the making of French Wines. The book tries to relate the original rock types that were weathered to create the soil that in turn produced the grapes that formed the wine. It is fascinating reading. =0D =0D Best,=0D =0D Tony Kolodziej=0D Geologist/Partner=0D Integrated Oil & Gas Tech.=0D 2500 West 8th. Street, Suite #105=0D Amarillo, Texas 79106-6614=0D =0D PS: Terroir is the French word for wine habitat!=0D =20 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 3 05:06:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Anita Westlake) Date: Mon Mar 3 05:06:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Thanks for my ongoing education! References: Message-ID: <3E6342E5.000007.01228@anitaw.library.emory.edu> Hi John and Pat:=0D Thanks for your interest in the Georgia Mineral Society. I'd be happy = to be your "contact". You can reach me via email anytime. To join, simply go= to our website at: gamineral.org and print off an application form and s= end it in. =0D I look forward to meeting and greeting you on a field trip soon. Georg= ia has some killer collecting sites. We're going to Graves Mountain very soo= n.. =0D =0D Anita Westlake=0D Education Chair, and Past President=0D Georgia Mineral Society=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com=0D Date: Saturday, March 01, 2003 08:29:11 AM=0D To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com=0D Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Thanks for my ongoing education!=0D =0D Dear Anita,=0D =0D Your note on the rockhounds list re-kindles a years-old interest in=0D visiting Georgia.=0D =0D My wife and I are both teachers and avid rockhounds and the Weinman Museu= m=0D is one of our favorite places. Mr. Santamaria was particularly friendly a= nd=0D helpful to us on our most recent visit.=0D =0D On our last few trips we've been much too rushed to do any serious=0D collecting, but your mention of garnets and staurolites convinced me that= we=0D must make the time.=0D =0D Could you be so kind as to provide us with a contact at the GA Mineral=0D Society and/or the Rome Club so that we can join?=0D =0D Thanks,=0D John and Pat=0D =0D _______________________________________________=0D Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List=0D WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds=0D Subscription Services:=0D http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds=0D =2E=20 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/related multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html image/gif image/jpeg --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 3 09:29:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Jim Daly) Date: Mon Mar 3 09:29:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] AD: Microminerals from the Palermo #1 Mine, New Hampshire Message-ID: <008601c2e1aa$481327a0$6a5204d0@jim> We're back from vacation, and have a new supply of Palermo material. The only species new to the list is Uraninite, but there are fresh = supplies of some species that were sold out: Foggite, Goyazite, = Malachite, Messelite, Rockbridgeite, Siderite, Vivianite, Whitlockite = and Whitmoreite. In some cases, some habits were sold out and have been replenished. The "New Additions" page on my website is a complete listing of all = Palermo material now available. Check it out! Jim Daly Sauktown Sales Microminerals and mounting supplies http://www.sauktown.com sauktown@adsnet.com or orders@sauktown.com --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 3 10:41:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Ydain) Date: Mon Mar 3 10:41:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Ad : rare mineral for exchange. References: <3E6342E5.000007.01228@anitaw.library.emory.edu> Message-ID: <000a01c2e1b4$1d53f6c0$a81d3351@z3e0m1> Hi all !! I've got few lulzacite specimens for exchange (different sizes specimens). It's a new strontium phosphate found in France and published in 2000. TYPE LOCALITY !! see you later From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 3 10:42:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Ydain) Date: Mon Mar 3 10:42:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Looking for list "rocks and fossils" address References: <3E6342E5.000007.01228@anitaw.library.emory.edu> Message-ID: <000d01c2e1b4$4fa6f5a0$a81d3351@z3e0m1> Hi all ! Does the list "rocks and fossils" always existe ? If yes, could you give me the address for subscribe ? see you later Y. Dain French collector of minerals http://www.chez.com/mineralzine/ From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 3 11:07:46 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Mon Mar 3 11:07:46 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Looking for list "rocks and fossils" address Message-ID: <200303031906.h23J6Hxl023791@bubbleator.drizzle.com> The list moved to rocksandfossils@yahoogroups.com Don > Hi all ! > > Does the list "rocks and fossils" always existe ? > > If yes, could you give me the address for subscribe ? > > see you later > > Y. Dain > French collector of minerals > http://www.chez.com/mineralzine/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 3 18:52:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Mel Albright) Date: Mon Mar 3 18:52:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Looking for list "rocks and fossils" address References: <200303031906.h23J6Hxl023791@bubbleator.drizzle.com> Message-ID: <003b01c2e1f8$ef67ee20$fcb2950c@mel> > rocksandfossils-subscribe@yahoogroups.com If I have it right. From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Mar 4 07:04:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Judy Ruddock) Date: Tue Mar 4 07:04:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Collecting at the Blanchard Message-ID: > >Hi Everyone, > > From being a long time reader of this list, I know that many of you >volunteer in lots of ways to share and support rockhounding and the >Earth sciences. For that reason, I am guessing you will share my >disappointment with a recent experience at the Blanchard Rock Shop >and fee collecting area in New Mexico. We have collected there a >number of times in the past.and while we enjoy the treasure hunt for >the blue fluorite specimens, we have been able to pick up massive >barite for student samples. I am not a dealer. I donate most of what >I collect to the Michigan Earth Science Teachers Association for >teaching materials distributed across the state. > >When we left the shop in the morning,we were told that there was a >$10 collecting fee per person and that we could each collect 20#. >When we returned in the afternoon we found out that the 20 pound >limit was now strictly enforced and applied to all materials, not >just the fluorite specimens. It included yard rocks, country rock, >massive barite,--everything. This was very surprising to us, because >in the past we have been told that we could take all the massive >barite we wanted. Today massive barite was 50 cents a pound! We >explained that we donated it to school kids in Michigan. That didn't >matter. We offered to pay an additional $20 for the two boxes of >barite we had in the back of our jeep wrangler. That was considered >an insult! > >In the end, we left the fluorite specimens we had collected and one >and a half boxes of barite. We paid our $20 collecting fee and were >allowed to take about 40 pounds of barite. > >I have collected across the country including many fee areas--this >was the most disappointing experience I have had. I am sharing this >information because I want you to be aware of my experience, so that >should you plan to visit the Blanchard you can take the appropriate >precautions. I would also urge the claim holders and caretakers to >develop a more customer friendly attitude like Warfield's, in >Wyoming, the Dust Devil in Oregon, Fiddler's Ridge in Arkansas,.and >Red Metal in Michigan........ > >Judy Ruddock >Michigan Earth Science Teachers Association From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Mar 4 17:12:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (hunkelerbrown) Date: Tue Mar 4 17:12:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Nephrite in Zimbabwe? Message-ID: <000001c2e15d$300afdb0$28e4383e@CPQ15218298181> Hello! I'm a relative newcomer to the world of nephrite cutting & carving and am newly arrived in Mozambique. I am interested in obtaining some nephrite from Zimbabwe. Having read your story, am I to understand that all nephrite is worked out in Zimbabwe or just at this site? If so, do you have any ideas on how I might go about finding or buying some good quality material (say 20 - 40 kgs)? Many thanks Nigel Brown --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Mar 4 17:12:32 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (marsha petrie) Date: Tue Mar 4 17:12:32 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Estate collection for sale Message-ID: <20030303180740.17593.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com> To whom it may concern. My parents estate contains a large number of show speciman rocks, gems and minerals that my parents have collected over 25 years of rock hounding in various remote locations in the Western United State, Canada and the Eastern US. These are rare items. These include breadbox size speciman's of amethyst crystals on petrified wood. Large white and rose quartz crystals weighing at least 10 pounds or more, large geode's , desert roses, jade, and others too numerous to name, including specimans that they purchased from dealers on these trips. I traveled with them and have considerable knowledge regarding the items nature and value. I am very interested in selling these to interested persons for a reasonable price. Anyone interested would have to travel to Central NY to veiw them. Please let me know ASAP if you are interested or if you know of anyone who would be. Thank you for your help. Marsha S. Petrie, Executor of Estate 315-337-3359 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Mar 4 19:52:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (John P. Junkroski) Date: Tue Mar 4 19:52:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Collecting at the Blanchard In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Judy, Sorry to hear about your experience at the Blanchard. We were there a couple of years ago with several others from our club and were treated like kings. I don't think I've ever had a more rewarding collecting trip. We are still working on sorting, trimming and cleaning the beautiful flourite cubes, after swapping and giving away many samples. Can you tell me if MESTA is still organizing trips for teachers? My wife and I went on a fabulous trip to Ontario with Mesta about fifteen or twenty years ago and enjoyed it immensely. We'd love to go again. John and Pat From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Mar 4 21:05:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Tue Mar 4 21:05:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Collecting at the Blanchard In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3E65319F.484.BC4F32C@localhost> Judy, sorry you had a disappointing time at Blanchard. However, it appears from your post that they were upfront with you before you left the shop. It was probably a misunderstanding on your part, since the limit wasn't enforced before. I guess you could count yourself lucky, since you could take all you wanted in the past...at no charge. Nobody likes it when things change, or get more expensive. I hear a lot of stories of the good old days in Tucson, when minerals were inexpensive, and plentiful. I thought prices were pretty high this year, but in about 5 years I'll probably remember 2003 as the good old days. I don't think you can begrudge the operators of Blanchard Rock Shop the opportunity to make a living. They have a product that others want......they set a price, and people buy, if it is fair. If it is overpriced, people will quit coming and buying. Then, the operators will either lower the price, or lose business until they sell out or quit. One must also factor into the equation how many folks just sneak back there and "high grade". You mention Fiddlers Ridge in Arkansas as being customer friendly, which I take as meaning they allow one to take "all that you find" for just the entry fee. What you may not know is that the Fecho's also have another business......a grass farm as an additional source of income. If you look around Bingham and the surrounding 40 miles or so, you won't see much there. Rocks is all they have to sell, as well as the experience of being out in the desert, and digging your own. I appreciate your educational work with the earth sciences, and the materials you donate to the schools. The funding for earth sciences here in Texas, or at least Austin, has been cut from the schools' budget, so our club is trying to make up for at least some of this. We have some dedicated members who collect and make up school packs, so I understand how important what you do is to the kids, and teachers. Just know that it is expensive to keep the claims active with the machinery that periodically needs to be brought in. With so many collecting spots disappearing, it is nice to have a choice, even if it costs more to us than it used to. Paul Bordovsky Austin, TX > > > >Hi Everyone, > > > > From being a long time reader of this list, I know that many of you > >volunteer in lots of ways to share and support rockhounding and the > >Earth sciences. For that reason, I am guessing you will share my > >disappointment with a recent experience at the Blanchard Rock Shop > >and fee collecting area in New Mexico. We have collected there a > >number of times in the past.and while we enjoy the treasure hunt for > >the blue fluorite specimens, we have been able to pick up massive > >barite for student samples. I am not a dealer. I donate most of what > >I collect to the Michigan Earth Science Teachers Association for > >teaching materials distributed across the state. > > > >When we left the shop in the morning,we were told that there was a > >$10 collecting fee per person and that we could each collect 20#. > >When we returned in the afternoon we found out that the 20 pound > >limit was now strictly enforced and applied to all materials, not > >just the fluorite specimens. It included yard rocks, country rock, > >massive barite,--everything. This was very surprising to us, because > >in the past we have been told that we could take all the massive > >barite we wanted. Today massive barite was 50 cents a pound! We > >explained that we donated it to school kids in Michigan. That didn't > >matter. We offered to pay an additional $20 for the two boxes of > >barite we had in the back of our jeep wrangler. That was considered > >an insult! > > > >In the end, we left the fluorite specimens we had collected and one > >and a half boxes of barite. We paid our $20 collecting fee and were > >allowed to take about 40 pounds of barite. > > > >I have collected across the country including many fee areas--this > >was the most disappointing experience I have had. I am sharing this > >information because I want you to be aware of my experience, so that > >should you plan to visit the Blanchard you can take the appropriate > >precautions. I would also urge the claim holders and caretakers to > >develop a more customer friendly attitude like Warfield's, in > >Wyoming, the Dust Devil in Oregon, Fiddler's Ridge in Arkansas,.and > >Red Metal in Michigan........ > > > >Judy Ruddock > >Michigan Earth Science Teachers Association > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Mar 4 21:28:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Allison Nilsen & Wayne Holland) Date: Tue Mar 4 21:28:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Collecting at the Blanchards Message-ID: <3E658B05.DB899BB4@plateautel.net> Hi there group, I am the owner of the Blanchard Rock Shop and have a mining claim that I allow the general public to collect on. I get hundreds of collectors here throughout the year and I have had to set a poundage limit of specimens collected. This limit is set to ensure that future rock hounds will be able to have as much success as the last person. Many of you have come here to collect and visit and I thank you. So, please let me explain the allegations. What Judy Ruddock has written is only partial truth. My partner, Wayne Holland, helped these folks as I was off to town for errands. What Judith and William brought out was approximately 300 pounds of barite and then about 50 pounds of fluorite specimens. They were also digging in an area that Wayne specifically told them was off limits. This area is even posted with a sign. If this wasn't bad enough, we later found out that they gouged out a pocket of fluorite and left several hundred pounds lying out in the sun to fade and be worthless! According to my "book", the Ruddocks are highgraders and should not be trusted. We have spoke with the other claim owners and Judith and William are not allowed back in the Hansonburg district for any reason. As many of you know, I am more than a fair person to do business with and have donated many tons of rock to schools and groups from around the world. Unfortunately, there are rules in life and some people just don't like to follow them. This collecting situation is the exact reason why most claim owners do not allow anyone on their claims! If anyone has any questions for me or my partner, feel free to contact us at any time 505-423-3235. Thanks for listening, Allison Nilsen From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 5 03:57:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Dennis Buffenmyer) Date: Wed Mar 5 03:57:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Requesting Searle's Lake and Boron info Message-ID: <3E65E57B.6070107@ptd.net> I seem to recall and can not locate a web site for the searle's lake collecting opportunities. I believe it was was set up by the Searle's lake club. I will soon be in Central Calif. from Pa. and would like any info relevant to Searle's lake and Boron that might be informative to me as to collecting opportunities. Thank you in advance for the info Dennis Buffenmyer buff1@ptd.net From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 5 05:57:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Jim Daly) Date: Wed Mar 5 05:57:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Collecting at the Blanchard References: <3E65319F.484.BC4F32C@localhost> Message-ID: <002801c2e31f$09ae3ba0$4e5204d0@jim> I, too, had a very good experience collecting at the Desert Rose mine last June. I would highly recommend it to anyone. Jim Daly ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Collecting at the Blanchard > Judy, sorry you had a disappointing time at Blanchard. However, it > appears from your post that they were upfront with you before you left the > shop. It was probably a misunderstanding on your part, since the limit > wasn't enforced before. I guess you could count yourself lucky, since you > could take all you wanted in the past...at no charge. > > Nobody likes it when things change, or get more expensive. I hear a lot of > stories of the good old days in Tucson, when minerals were inexpensive, > and plentiful. I thought prices were pretty high this year, but in about 5 > years I'll probably remember 2003 as the good old days. > > I don't think you can begrudge the operators of Blanchard Rock Shop the > opportunity to make a living. They have a product that others want......they > set a price, and people buy, if it is fair. If it is overpriced, people will quit > coming and buying. Then, the operators will either lower the price, or lose > business until they sell out or quit. One must also factor into the equation > how many folks just sneak back there and "high grade". > > You mention Fiddlers Ridge in Arkansas as being customer friendly, which > I take as meaning they allow one to take "all that you find" for just the entry > fee. What you may not know is that the Fecho's also have another > business......a grass farm as an additional source of income. If you look > around Bingham and the surrounding 40 miles or so, you won't see much > there. Rocks is all they have to sell, as well as the experience of being out > in the desert, and digging your own. > > I appreciate your educational work with the earth sciences, and the > materials you donate to the schools. The funding for earth sciences here in > Texas, or at least Austin, has been cut from the schools' budget, so our > club is trying to make up for at least some of this. We have some > dedicated members who collect and make up school packs, so I > understand how important what you do is to the kids, and teachers. > > Just know that it is expensive to keep the claims active with the machinery > that periodically needs to be brought in. With so many collecting spots > disappearing, it is nice to have a choice, even if it costs more to us than it > used to. > > Paul Bordovsky > Austin, TX > > > > > > >Hi Everyone, > > > > > > From being a long time reader of this list, I know that many of you > > >volunteer in lots of ways to share and support rockhounding and the > > >Earth sciences. For that reason, I am guessing you will share my > > >disappointment with a recent experience at the Blanchard Rock Shop > > >and fee collecting area in New Mexico. We have collected there a > > >number of times in the past.and while we enjoy the treasure hunt for > > >the blue fluorite specimens, we have been able to pick up massive > > >barite for student samples. I am not a dealer. I donate most of what > > >I collect to the Michigan Earth Science Teachers Association for > > >teaching materials distributed across the state. > > > > > >When we left the shop in the morning,we were told that there was a > > >$10 collecting fee per person and that we could each collect 20#. > > >When we returned in the afternoon we found out that the 20 pound > > >limit was now strictly enforced and applied to all materials, not > > >just the fluorite specimens. It included yard rocks, country rock, > > >massive barite,--everything. This was very surprising to us, because > > >in the past we have been told that we could take all the massive > > >barite we wanted. Today massive barite was 50 cents a pound! We > > >explained that we donated it to school kids in Michigan. That didn't > > >matter. We offered to pay an additional $20 for the two boxes of > > >barite we had in the back of our jeep wrangler. That was considered > > >an insult! > > > > > >In the end, we left the fluorite specimens we had collected and one > > >and a half boxes of barite. We paid our $20 collecting fee and were > > >allowed to take about 40 pounds of barite. > > > > > >I have collected across the country including many fee areas--this > > >was the most disappointing experience I have had. I am sharing this > > >information because I want you to be aware of my experience, so that > > >should you plan to visit the Blanchard you can take the appropriate > > >precautions. I would also urge the claim holders and caretakers to > > >develop a more customer friendly attitude like Warfield's, in > > >Wyoming, the Dust Devil in Oregon, Fiddler's Ridge in Arkansas,.and > > >Red Metal in Michigan........ > > > > > >Judy Ruddock > > >Michigan Earth Science Teachers Association > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > > Subscription Services: > > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 5 06:00:02 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Wed Mar 5 06:00:02 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Collecting at the Blanchard Message-ID: <1cf.45b1ace.2b975ccb@aol.com> I agree with this. Folks need to be able to make a living!! As a dealer in minerals I get awfully tired of the small percentage of adult customers who want something for little or nothing (kids are a happy exception). I'd agree to low prices if the customer would pay my taxes, show fees, truck and gas expenses, motel and restaurant bills, and supply, labeling, boxing, mishandling, theft and other costs. John Scully In a message dated 3/4/03 10:06:09 PM Mountain Standard Time, diente@prismnet.com writes: << Subj: Re: [Rockhounds] Collecting at the Blanchard Date: 3/4/03 10:06:09 PM Mountain Standard Time From: diente@prismnet.com Sender: rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com Reply-to: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com CC: jruddock@pilot.msu.edu Judy, sorry you had a disappointing time at Blanchard. However, it appears from your post that they were upfront with you before you left the shop. It was probably a misunderstanding on your part, since the limit wasn't enforced before. I guess you could count yourself lucky, since you could take all you wanted in the past...at no charge. Nobody likes it when things change, or get more expensive. I hear a lot of stories of the good old days in Tucson, when minerals were inexpensive, and plentiful. I thought prices were pretty high this year, but in about 5 years I'll probably remember 2003 as the good old days. I don't think you can begrudge the operators of Blanchard Rock Shop the opportunity to make a living. They have a product that others want......they set a price, and people buy, if it is fair. If it is overpriced, people will quit coming and buying. Then, the operators will either lower the price, or lose business until they sell out or quit. One must also factor into the equation how many folks just sneak back there and "high grade". You mention Fiddlers Ridge in Arkansas as being customer friendly, which I take as meaning they allow one to take "all that you find" for just the entry fee. What you may not know is that the Fecho's also have another business......a grass farm as an additional source of income. If you look around Bingham and the surrounding 40 miles or so, you won't see much there. Rocks is all they have to sell, as well as the experience of being out in the desert, and digging your own. I appreciate your educational work with the earth sciences, and the materials you donate to the schools. The funding for earth sciences here in Texas, or at least Austin, has been cut from the schools' budget, so our club is trying to make up for at least some of this. We have some dedicated members who collect and make up school packs, so I understand how important what you do is to the kids, and teachers. Just know that it is expensive to keep the claims active with the machinery that periodically needs to be brought in. With so many collecting spots disappearing, it is nice to have a choice, even if it costs more to us than it used to. Paul Bordovsky Austin, TX >> From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 5 06:28:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (S & C Weinberger) Date: Wed Mar 5 06:28:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Jack Nelson Message-ID: Jack Nelson, member of several clubs in the Washington DC area, well known micromounter and gold-panner passed away at his home yesterday. He had been diagnosed with cancer of the brain a few months ago. Many of you on the list knew Jack, either personally or via e-mail. He was a fantastic individual who, with his winning, loving smile and enthusiasm for any task he undertook, showed his love of life, learning and people. Contributions in Jack's memory can be made to the AFMS Scholarship Foundation (%Bob Livingston, 59 Ely Drive, Fayetteville, NY 13066. Checks payable to "AFMS Scholarship Foundation"). Funeral services are being planned and if any on the list wish to be informed, please e-mail me privately. Carolyn Weinberger EFMLS Editor From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 5 07:03:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Stuart Schmitt) Date: Wed Mar 5 07:03:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Crushing crystal References: Message-ID: <003101c2e328$48fd9310$82ac3f94@STUART> I have a customer who wants quartz crystal crushed in to less than pea size. Does anyone know where or how to get this done? With appreciation & gratitude, Stuart Schmitt Sweet Surrender Crystal Mine www.arcrystalmine.com 60 Mary's Eagle Trail Mount Ida, AR 71957 (870) 867-2443 From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 5 07:29:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (horstwindisch) Date: Wed Mar 5 07:29:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Nephrite in Zimbabwe? References: <000001c2e15d$300afdb0$28e4383e@CPQ15218298181> Message-ID: <006c01c2e32a$c41a8880$0100007f@horstspc> Hi Nigel, I don't what the position re nephrite jade in Zimbabwe is at the moment. Our (Pretoria Gem and Mineral Club) bought some of this material in the middle sixties, when it was being mined at a chrome mine near Que Que (now called Kwe Kwe) as a "by-product". The money obtained from the sale of this material went into the coffers of the Mine Social Club. I still have one cabochon which I polished myself, but no more raw material. Did not see the original message, so am not sure which area in Zimbabwe was under discussion. Regards, Horst---- Original Message ----- From: "hunkelerbrown" To: Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:16 AM Subject: [Rockhounds] Nephrite in Zimbabwe? > Hello! > > I'm a relative newcomer to the world of nephrite cutting & carving and > am newly arrived in Mozambique. I am interested in obtaining some > nephrite from Zimbabwe. Having read your story, am I to understand that > all nephrite is worked out in Zimbabwe or just at this site? If so, do > you have any ideas on how I might go about finding or buying some good > quality material (say 20 - 40 kgs)? > > Many thanks > > Nigel Brown > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 5 08:13:08 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Wed Mar 5 08:13:08 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Collecting at the Blanchard Message-ID: <164.1cdbd0cb.2b977be9@aol.com> I have had many positive experiences at the Blanchard mines and with the present owner. These include discounted and sometimes personally guided student field trips, many pounds of minerals for my Earth Science classes, and a lot of patience with my students. On one occasion, Allison donated about four tons of flagstone to my students for a class project. Considering that she is trying to make a living out in the middle of the desert, we owe her some gratitude and thanks for her efforts in allowing the public any collecting at all. If it wasn't for her collecting site, there would be very little if any collecting done at the Hansonburg District. I know that most people have a positive experience at her claim and I highly recommend going to the Blanchard Rockshop. Rex/Retired Earth Science teacher and mineral collector. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 5 08:28:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Henry Barwood) Date: Wed Mar 5 08:28:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Collecting at the Blanchard In-Reply-To: <164.1cdbd0cb.2b977be9@aol.com> Message-ID: Just a quick question to the list. I remember many years ago people attending rock shows would bring not only specimens of blue fluorite cubes, but nice specimens of linarite and brochantite from the Blanchard. Are such specimens collectable today? Henry Barwood From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 5 09:49:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Allison Nilsen & Wayne Holland) Date: Wed Mar 5 09:49:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Jack Nelson References: Message-ID: <3E66389C.32F3BA53@plateautel.net> May he rest in peace. S & C Weinberger wrote: > Jack Nelson, member of several clubs in the Washington DC area, well known > micromounter and gold-panner passed away at his home yesterday. He had > been diagnosed with cancer of the brain a few months ago. > > Many of you on the list knew Jack, either personally or via e-mail. He was > a fantastic individual who, with his winning, loving smile and enthusiasm > for any task he undertook, showed his love of life, learning and people. > > Contributions in Jack's memory can be made to the AFMS Scholarship > Foundation (%Bob Livingston, 59 Ely Drive, Fayetteville, NY 13066. Checks > payable to "AFMS Scholarship Foundation"). > > Funeral services are being planned and if any on the list wish to be > informed, please e-mail me privately. > > Carolyn Weinberger > EFMLS Editor > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 5 10:25:02 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Art Berggreen) Date: Wed Mar 5 10:25:02 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Requesting Searle's Lake and Boron info References: <3E65E57B.6070107@ptd.net> Message-ID: <3E6640D1.8010201@berggreen.org> How about: http://www1.iwvisp.com/tronagemclub/SiteMap.htm Art Dennis Buffenmyer wrote: > I seem to recall and can not locate a web site for the searle's lake > collecting opportunities. I believe it was was set up by the Searle's > lake club. > I will soon be in Central Calif. from Pa. and would like any info > relevant to Searle's lake and Boron that might be informative to me as > to collecting opportunities. > Thank you in advance for the info > Dennis Buffenmyer > buff1@ptd.net > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 5 11:04:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Hilmar Krocke) Date: Wed Mar 5 11:04:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Requesting Searle's Lake and Boron info In-Reply-To: <3E65E57B.6070107@ptd.net> Message-ID: I seem to recall and can not locate a web site for the searle's lake collecting opportunities. I believe it was was set up by the Searle's lake club. I will soon be in Central Calif. from Pa. and would like any info relevant to Searle's lake and Boron that might be informative to me as to collecting opportunities. Thank you in advance for the info Dennis Buffenmyer buff1@ptd.net _______________________________________________ go to : http://www1.iwvisp.com/tronagemclub/GEM-O-RAMA.htm or search on GOOGLE for: "Searles Lake Field Trips" SEARLES LAKE is without apostrophe ! Hilmar --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 5 11:26:02 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Jim Daly) Date: Wed Mar 5 11:26:02 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Collecting at the Blanchard References: Message-ID: <001701c2e34c$fba4dae0$105204d0@jim> It's the Blanchard Rock Shop, but the Desert Rose Mine. THe Blanchard Mine may be something else. At the Desert Rose last June I saw no Brochantite or Linarite. Jim Daly ----- Original Message ----- From: Henry Barwood To: Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:29 AM Subject: RE: [Rockhounds] Collecting at the Blanchard > Just a quick question to the list. I remember many years ago people > attending rock shows would bring not only specimens of blue fluorite cubes, > but nice specimens of linarite and brochantite from the Blanchard. Are such > specimens collectable today? > > Henry Barwood > > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 5 11:32:10 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (William S. Cordua) Date: Wed Mar 5 11:32:10 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Jack Nelson In-Reply-To: <3E66389C.32F3BA53@plateautel.net> References: Message-ID: Good bye friend Jack. Hope Heavan has lots of places for you to pan for interesting minerals.- Dr. Bill Dr. William S. Cordua Professor of Geology/Mineralogy University of Wisconsin - River Falls 410 South Third Street River Falls, WI 54022 715-425-3139 william.s.cordua@uwrf.edu "Speak to the Earth and it shall teach thee" - Job 12:8 From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 5 12:56:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Teresa Otis) Date: Wed Mar 5 12:56:00 2003 Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: [Rockhounds] Crushing crystal]] Message-ID: <3E66648A.11B8977E@earthlink.net> Stuart, I asked a friend of mine in Mt. Ida about this (I had gotten some from him a few years back). This is the reply I got - hope its helpful Teresa Otis jay jones wrote: > > A few yaers ago, i was over at Jimmy Colemans place,and he had a crusher, in one of his wharehouses. You might check with him. Also, there used to be a dealer, in quartsite, he set up at the panarama, and sold small crushers for gold minning. They had interchangable mechanisms for sizing the crushed material. Of course, quatsite is over now, but perhaps you could contact someone the gold prospecting business, for more info. If I were looking to buy one, I would put an ad in one of the rock hounding mags and/or put a want ad on the internet or use a bulletine board(on the net). > > - > > > > I have a customer who wants quartz crystal crushed in to less than pea > size. > > Does anyone know where or how to get this done? > > > > With appreciation & gratitude, > > Stuart Schmitt > > Sweet Surrender Crystal Mine > > href="http://www.arcrystalmine.com">www.arcrystalmine.com > > 60 Mary's Eagle Trail > > Mount Ida, AR 71957 > > (870) 867-2443 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > > WWW: href="http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds">http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > > Subscription Services: > > href="http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds">http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 5 16:07:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kreigh Tomaszewski) Date: Wed Mar 5 16:07:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Crushing crystal References: <003101c2e328$48fd9310$82ac3f94@STUART> Message-ID: <3E66910E.2078@Tomaszewski.net> Contact your local road construction firms. They often use rock crushing machines to make 'gravel' for use in concrete construction. Broken rock binds better in cement than gravel. Stuart Schmitt wrote: > > I have a customer who wants quartz crystal crushed in to less than pea size. > Does anyone know where or how to get this done? > > With appreciation & gratitude, > Stuart Schmitt > Sweet Surrender Crystal Mine > www.arcrystalmine.com > 60 Mary's Eagle Trail > Mount Ida, AR 71957 > (870) 867-2443 > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 5 16:10:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Thomas Yancey) Date: Wed Mar 5 16:10:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Crushing crystal In-Reply-To: <003101c2e328$48fd9310$82ac3f94@STUART> References: <003101c2e328$48fd9310$82ac3f94@STUART> Message-ID: Stuart, Contact the Geological Survey in Little Rock or U Ark at Fayetteville and ask if they have a rock crusher. Small units are usually available in geology departments and are easy to operate. They are simple devices and it should not take much time to crush a sample. Or, you could purchase one for your own use. T. Yancey >I have a customer who wants quartz crystal crushed in to less than pea size. >Does anyone know where or how to get this done? > >With appreciation & gratitude, >Stuart Schmitt >Sweet Surrender Crystal Mine >www.arcrystalmine.com >60 Mary's Eagle Trail >Mount Ida, AR 71957 >(870) 867-2443 From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 5 19:32:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Dri) Date: Wed Mar 5 19:32:01 2003 Subject: [Fwd: [Rockhounds] Crushing crystal]] References: <3E66648A.11B8977E@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <001e01c2e391$012721a0$6801a8c0@dslverizon.net> Stuart: Use the Goggle Search Engine. If there are sources for what you are looking for, they will be there Dri-Anna (Two Spirit) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teresa Otis" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:56 Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: [Rockhounds] Crushing crystal]] > Stuart, > > I asked a friend of mine in Mt. Ida about this (I had gotten some from > him a few years back). This is the reply I got - hope its > helpful > > Teresa Otis > > jay jones wrote: > > > > A few yaers ago, i was over at Jimmy Colemans place,and he had a crusher, in one of his wharehouses. You might check with him. Also, there used to be a dealer, in quartsite, he set up at the panarama, and sold small crushers for gold minning. They had interchangable mechanisms for sizing the crushed material. Of course, quatsite is over now, but perhaps you could contact someone the gold prospecting business, for more info. If I were looking to buy one, I would put an ad in one of the rock hounding mags and/or put a want ad on the internet or use a bulletine board(on the net). > > > > > - > > > > > > I have a customer who wants quartz crystal crushed in to less than pea > > size. > > > Does anyone know where or how to get this done? > > > > > > With appreciation & gratitude, > > > Stuart Schmitt > > > Sweet Surrender Crystal Mine > > > > href="http://www.arcrystalmine.com">www.arcrystalmine.com > > > 60 Mary's Eagle Trail > > > Mount Ida, AR 71957 > > > (870) 867-2443 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > > > WWW: > href="http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds">http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/ rockhounds > > > Subscription Services: > > > > href="http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds">http://lists.dri zzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 5 21:10:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Allison Nilsen & Wayne Holland) Date: Wed Mar 5 21:10:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Many thanks! Message-ID: <3E66D869.E59C9817@plateautel.net> It looks like treating people good pays off! Thanks to everyone for all the positive feed back and compliments. I hope you all come and see us soon, we've made a lot of improvements on the shop and property. Allison & Wayne From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Mar 6 05:50:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Thu Mar 6 05:50:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] seeking USGS Pub. 914, Microscopic Determination of the Ore Minerals Message-ID: <200303061349.h26Dnu0a031721@bubbleator.drizzle.com> Hi all, I am looking to buy USGS Pub 914. I called the USGS, and not only don't they have it, they seemed bewildered that I'd even want it, which doesn't engender my faith in the people USGS is hiring. Anyway, I'm betting someone has one for sale; people on the list have come through on every requested document so far! Don From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Mar 6 13:40:03 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Preston White) Date: Thu Mar 6 13:40:03 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Advertisement- Text Books for Sale References: <6056708.1046155998302.JavaMail.nobody@misspiggy.psp.pas.earthlink.net> <3E5B2E1A.F2C205A5@cox.net> <000a01c2dcde$137859a0$a8af5a0c@fekib> Message-ID: <005901c2e428$ea6d1f80$0500a8c0@admin> If you did not sell these books we have added a classified section to http://www.worldofrockhounds.com People are looking for these type of books. Preston ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Rush" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:56 AM Subject: [Rockhounds] Advertisement- Text Books for Sale > For Sale: (I will pay postage) > > Mineralogy; Kraus, Hunt & Ramsdell, good condition, 1959 ($30) > > Manual of Geology; James D. Dana, 3rd. edition,1880, fair condition ($45) > > Textbook of Mineralogy; E. S. Dana, W. E. Ford, 4th.edition,1926, good > condition($55) > > > Larry Rush > larryrush@att.net > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Mar 6 14:48:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Preston White) Date: Thu Mar 6 14:48:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Saving your own collection References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030223104200.00a8e158@mail.charter.net> Message-ID: <00e301c2e432$66ec86f0$0500a8c0@admin> I was looking back through deleted e-mails and this seemed to be a hot topic. It gave me an idea and I thought it would run it by the group. As most of you know we have just opened http://www.worldofrockhounds.com which is on a fast track to being successful and we have some interesting automated systems that allow anyone, anytime to submit a mineral and description of a mineral. We set up this original system as a storefront to market your goods (this system is cheaper than first quoted, go see. its still free for 2 months but its lowered to $10.00 per month plus you get 4 storefronts to add a variety of product) The point of this letter is to solicit ideas. What if I started a second system, a gallery system? where you can have a gallery of your own? You can add up to 50 items per page as a way of adding your collection to digital history. If I set this up, it will last and probably go on forever. I guarentee it. I offer this because we have the ways and means to do the programming in a day if there is enough interest to warrant it. I think there should be a virtual place to store your finds and you can have it in a day just say the word. Preston White CEO Northwest Internet Technologies http://www.website-services.biz 719-528-7122 Visit our latest the http://www.worldofrockhounds.com but don't forget http://www.worldofgramophones.com From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Mar 6 18:54:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rocksndogs) Date: Thu Mar 6 18:54:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] THANK YOU Greg Lesinski Message-ID: <001d01c2e454$aaa7baa0$6d37c843@computer> A BIG Thankyou to Greg Lesinski for the sample fluorescent minerals he = donated to the Boy Scouts! The boys are very excited about the = specimens they will receive at the merit badge council. Since this was = such a surprise for the boys, the other boys who did not sign up to do = the geology merit badge are planning on working on it now! =20 Anybody who wishes to donate a handful of specimens for the boy scouts = (troop117) feel free to send them to Jody Fronk, 138 south 18th, = Decatur, Illinois, 62521. I am the geology counselor for the boy scouts = in this area, and I don't always have enough samples of different things = to go around. =20 =20 Thanks again Greg- you made allot of boys very excited !!!! You made a = difference! Sincerely- Jody=20 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Mar 6 22:16:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Thu Mar 6 22:16:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Saving your own collection Message-ID: <1d3.481e73f.2b9992ff@aol.com> Hi I just got off your site and read your note you just published. I have a question about the photo work of the stones and jewelry on your site. What method are you using to get the pictures. Most of the stones that I photograph for my web page comes out fairly good but I do have trouble with my jewelry pieces. Now in relating this to your proposal. How would I be able to get pictures of my materials and get them to your site? I would want a good representation of what my stones or material look like to be fair to prospective customers (and not discourage any person from being a customer). Larry E. Whittington Living with Jesus now gives hope for the future. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 7 06:30:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Preston White) Date: Fri Mar 7 06:30:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Saving your own collection References: <1d3.481e73f.2b9992ff@aol.com> Message-ID: <000001c2e4b5$f9a3a4a0$0500a8c0@admin> Hi Larry,=20 > I just got off your site and read your note you just published. >=20 > I have a question about the photo work of the stones and jewelry on = your=20 > site. What method are you using to get the pictures. Most of the = stones that=20 > I photograph for my web page comes out fairly good but I do have = trouble with=20 > my jewelry pieces.=20 We mostly use a cheap digital camera and a good old 35mm to do some of = the shots. We will be getting better as we go for sure. Were the = pictures good? > Now in relating this to your proposal. How would I be able to get = pictures of=20 > my materials and get them to your site?=20 If you can get the pictures into your computer it is simple to upload = them to the site. > I would want a good representation of what my stones or material look = like to be fair to prospective customers (and=20 > not discourage any person from being a customer).=20 For a dealer or seller we do have a small fee after 2 months but you are = all more than welcome to get a storefront, show a variety of product to = get people to your site.=20 > I just logged on tonight for the first time. This site is quite = interesting and compreshensive. (Website is interesting in its format > = and construction.) I have been working on mine (learning as I go) but it = is not anything like your site. Thank you it has been a long hual. We also do web design for a living = and would gladly give you pointers on your site. > If you are going to have lists of services or activities, you might = want to include a listing for flat specimen polishing (like agates, > = woods, jaspers). This is one of my specialties as well as cabbing. I = work (polish) for both individuals and dealers. Please shoot me what galleries or dealers sections you would like to = see. We need input. > I will come back later and at least use you classified section. I will = call you tomorrow. > Larry E. Whittington >=20 > Living with Jesus now gives hope for the future. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 7 06:46:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Judy Ruddock) Date: Fri Mar 7 06:46:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Collecting at the Blanchard In-Reply-To: <164.1cdbd0cb.2b977be9@aol.com> References: <164.1cdbd0cb.2b977be9@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi List, I am glad that many of you have had good experiences at the Blanchard. And as a number of you pointed out--the folks at the Blanchard do have the right to set the price for all materials taken from their claims. I must admit, I was just frustrated by what seemed to be a change in practice and experience. There are many facets to this great hobby of ours. While most of you, as mineral collectors or dealers want to collect beautiful and unique mineral specimens that can have great value, we are collecting pumice, basalt, sandstone, limestone, feldspar, quartz, barite, etc. Materials that are used to teach kids about the earth. I am sure that you will admit, these materials would not have the same value or appeal to you as a mineral dealer or collector. All the same, my experience has been that most people go out of their way to help us get what we are looking for. I am most grateful for the help and generosity of so many. But that does not give me the the right to expect it to happen all the time. Different points of view are what this list is all about. The personal misrepresentations of Bill and I as collectors will be handled off list. We would just like you will consider that we did not take one single fluorite specimen from the Blanchard. Instead we made the choice to take the 40 pounds of barite that was offered. Thanks for listening. Judy From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 7 07:11:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Fri Mar 7 07:11:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Collecting at the Blanchard (helpful hint) Message-ID: <200303071510.h27FAoUn014708@bubbleator.drizzle.com> I'm not getting in the middle of this issue--and I'm glad it didn't turn into a real list flame war, since you guys obviously need to work out some personal issues on the side--but I have a general suggestion. For people who own a business and file a 1040 Schedule C, there is another option. You can assign a per-pound value to the gangue minerals or overburden or whatever you want to call them, and donate them to organizations and write it off. This applies to donations tax-exempt orgs (501(c)(3)) like Boy Scouts and schools and so forth. Naturally, there must be a legitimate paper trail in case of audit. However, if you donate 100 lbs. of stuff at $1/lb., that is $100 to write off. Consult a tax professional for other suggestions on how to make beneficial arrangements between businesses and non-profit orgs. Don From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 7 08:07:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Fri Mar 7 08:07:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Collecting at the Blanchard (helpful hint) Message-ID: <174.1772141e.2b9a1d6d@aol.com> In a message dated 3/7/2003 10:12:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, morningstar@att.net writes: > You can assign a per-pound value to the gangue minerals or overburden > or whatever you want to call them, and donate them to organizations and > write > it off. This applies to donations tax-exempt orgs (501(c)(3)) like Boy > Scouts > and schools and so forth. Naturally, there must be a legitimate paper > trail in > case of audit. However, if you donate 100 lbs. of stuff at $1/lb Don, You cannot assign a random value to your donation. It must be fair market value. $1/pound for overburden sounds excessive. John Betts www.johnbetts-fineminerals.com --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 7 08:24:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Fri Mar 7 08:24:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Collecting at the Blanchard (helpful hint) Message-ID: <200303071623.h27GN6Oh019911@bubbleator.drizzle.com> Sorry I wasn't clear about that; by "legitimiate paper trail" I meant being able to prove a reasonable value. My amount was arbitrary. I was also generally referring to the collectible but unspectacular massive quartz, feldspar, barite, etc., that Judith wants; not just general gravel-quality junk, but minerals possibly classified by the BLM as locatables. However, John, I must respectfully disagree, since a lot of dumps and dig sites charge *at least* $1/lb. for whatever you take out. We're not talking about landfill by the ton here; we are talking about small purchases of only hundreds of pounds by collectors. But once again, the amount was arbitrary, and the main point is that there are alternative ways to help others that have tax advantages. My accountant and I are quite comfortable with what I do (most of which is writing off allowable expenses for serving as an officer of 501(c)(3) organizations), and once again I should urge anyone who wants to delve into this arena to talk to a tax professional. Whatever you do is at your own risk of audit, and must be justifiable to the IRS. Some things, like writing off a part of your home as a business property, are automatic red flags (so I don't bother trying it); others are standard procedure, and as long as you are reasonable and follow the rules strictly and document everything, you need not worry. Don "Oh that's right, you're the one who records everything as if you expect to be audited, so you're not worried about it since you've got everything covered anyway." Sue, my accountant, last Wednesday night > In a message dated 3/7/2003 10:12:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, > morningstar@att.net writes: > > > > You can assign a per-pound value to the gangue minerals or overburden > > or whatever you want to call them, and donate them to organizations and > > write > > it off. This applies to donations tax-exempt orgs (501(c)(3)) like Boy > > Scouts > > and schools and so forth. Naturally, there must be a legitimate paper > > trail in > > case of audit. However, if you donate 100 lbs. of stuff at $1/lb > > Don, > You cannot assign a random value to your donation. It must be fair market > value. $1/pound for overburden sounds excessive. > > John Betts > www.johnbetts-fineminerals.com > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 7 10:39:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (kevin k conroy) Date: Fri Mar 7 10:39:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] seeking USGS Pub. 914, Microscopic Determination of the Ore Minerals Message-ID: <006b01c2e4d9$a203f640$7a6d550c@kcmins> Hi Don! Go to www.bookfinder.com Enter "SHORT" as the author, and "MICROSCOPIC DETERMINATION OF THE ORE MINERALS" for the title. Good luck! All the best, Kevin website: www.kcminerals.com -----Original Message----- From: morningstar@att.net To: rocksandfossils@yahoogroups.com ; rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Date: Thursday, March 06, 2003 7:55 AM Subject: [Rockhounds] seeking USGS Pub. 914, Microscopic Determination of the Ore Minerals > >Hi all, > >I am looking to buy USGS Pub 914. I called the USGS, and not only don't they >have it, they seemed bewildered that I'd even want it, which doesn't engender >my faith in the people USGS is hiring. Anyway, I'm betting someone has one for >sale; people on the list have come through on every requested document so far! > >Don >_______________________________________________ >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >Subscription Services: >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sun Mar 9 14:25:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Italian Minerals) Date: Sun Mar 9 14:25:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] AD - ItalianMinerals.com update Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20030309232436.007cd100@popmail.libero.it> Hi there ! new rocks just added on ItalianMinerals.com website ! nice fluorites, rhodocrosites from Sweethome, datolite from Italy, melanite, wulfenite from Mexico, topaz from Mexico, and more on the other pages !!! http://www.italianminerals.com/whatsnew-4.html Give a look ! we will be happy to have you visiting us ! http://www.italianminerals.com ItalianMinerals.com ===================== Visit us at: http://www.ItalianMinerals.com for quality minerals !! Check our auctions on Ebay at: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=itali anminerals ===================== From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 10 00:33:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Demeulemeester, Pierre) Date: Mon Mar 10 00:33:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] seeking USGS Pub. 914, Microscopic Determination of the Ore Minerals Message-ID: <32F8F541EA3ED71196580002A551313001457903@noh01ex.noh.be.solvay.com> Try http://www.home.earthlink.net/~msbooks/usgs_bulletins.htm Pierre Demeulemeester -----Original Message----- From: kevin k conroy [mailto:k.conroy@worldnet.att.net] Sent: vendredi 7 mars 2003 19:45 To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] seeking USGS Pub. 914, Microscopic Determination of the Ore Minerals Hi Don! Go to www.bookfinder.com Enter "SHORT" as the author, and "MICROSCOPIC DETERMINATION OF THE ORE MINERALS" for the title. Good luck! All the best, Kevin website: www.kcminerals.com -----Original Message----- From: morningstar@att.net To: rocksandfossils@yahoogroups.com ; rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Date: Thursday, March 06, 2003 7:55 AM Subject: [Rockhounds] seeking USGS Pub. 914, Microscopic Determination of the Ore Minerals > >Hi all, > >I am looking to buy USGS Pub 914. I called the USGS, and not only >don't they >have it, they seemed bewildered that I'd even want it, which doesn't engender >my faith in the people USGS is hiring. Anyway, I'm betting someone has >one for >sale; people on the list have come through on every requested document >so far! > >Don >_______________________________________________ >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >Subscription Services: >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > _______________________________________________ Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds Subscription Services: http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail is confidential. If you are not the addressee or an authorized recipient of this message, any distribution, copying, publication or use of this information for any purpose is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and then delete this message. Ce message est confidentiel. Si vous n'etes pas le destinataire designe de ce message ou une personne autorisee a l'utiliser, toute distribution, copie, publication ou usage a quelques fins que ce soit des informations contenues dans ce message sont interdits. Merci d'informer immediatement l'expediteur par messagerie electronique et d'ensuite detruire ce message. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 10 07:37:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Teddi Silver) Date: Mon Mar 10 07:37:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Delaware Mineralogical Society - March 10 Speaker Message-ID: <00ff01c2e695$f5bcc560$cfc7a4d8@default> I am not sure of the status of who has and hasn't received the March = newsletter, but after a couple of phone calls, a number of people = haven't. They probably will get it tomorrow. Hopefully, you will read this before tomorrow night. Our guest speaker = is coming from York, Pennsylvania, and I would like to see a good = turnout for him, since he is well known in the mineral circle of = friends. If you can forward this message to any other people you know = that might be interested in the program, please do so.....e.g geology = group at U of De, coin and treasure hunter clubs, teachers, friends, = etc. GOLD TREASURE RECOVERY Jay Lininger who is the founder and publisher of Matrix Magazine, a = Journal of the History of Minerals, will be speaking to the Delaware = Mineralogical Society, on Tuesday, March 10th, at the Greenbank Mill at = 7:30 PM. His program will be on "Gold Treasure Recovery'.=20 In 2002, he was elected to the National Rockhound and Lapidary Hall of = Fame. Jay has written many articles for magazines & given many = presentations nationwide on minerals. He is the owner of one of the = finest mineral collections of Pennsylvania as well as a worldwide = reference collection of minerals, with many rare specimens. He has been = a major influence on both national and international mineral = communities. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 10 07:37:21 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Ronald Werner) Date: Mon Mar 10 07:37:21 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] looking for addresse Message-ID: <001c01c2e71a$d400e6b0$c95b5490@RW> Hi, I am looking for the addresse of Bert Hanou, a collecter from the = western part of the USA. Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance. Ronald Werner Evje, Norway --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 10 11:35:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (horstwindisch) Date: Mon Mar 10 11:35:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] looking for addresse References: <001c01c2e71a$d400e6b0$c95b5490@RW> Message-ID: <001d01c2e73a$f4d03380$593f27c4@horstspc> Hi Ronald, The 1998 Interrnational Directory of Micromounters lists his address as:- 5341 S Jasmine Greenwood Village Englewoopd Colorado 80111 Kind regards, Horst ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronald Werner" To: Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:35 PM Subject: [Rockhounds] looking for addresse Hi, I am looking for the addresse of Bert Hanou, a collecter from the western part of the USA. Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance. Ronald Werner Evje, Norway --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- _______________________________________________ Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds Subscription Services: http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Mar 11 08:27:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Gary Brown) Date: Tue Mar 11 08:27:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] MasMils/PLUS for March In-Reply-To: <00e301c2e432$66ec86f0$0500a8c0@admin> Message-ID: So I'm a little slow... This month sees MasMils/PLUS going "out east" to Litchfield County, Connecticut. What (I hear you say) rockhounding within an hour or so's drive from the Big Apple? You betcha! Some of my prize specimens come from the garnet mines scattered around Roxbury. (Thanks Larry!) Go to my site, and click on the "Sample MasMils" button over on the left edge. http://www.catspaw-minerals.com >>> plug <<< I've got a handful of MasMils/PLUS disks up on eBay right now. Here's one of 'em: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3226&item=2164011152 I'll be working on my "Authors for Rockhounds" pretty soon.... I'm still taking suggestions! Regards, Gary Catspaw Minerals From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Mar 11 08:42:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Ronald Werner) Date: Tue Mar 11 08:42:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] looking for addresse References: <001c01c2e71a$d400e6b0$c95b5490@RW> <001d01c2e73a$f4d03380$593f27c4@horstspc> Message-ID: <003a01c2e7ed$213b6040$6f4d8ed5@RW> Hi Horst, Many thanks for the information. I do hope Bert Hanou is still collecting, since he will be of considerable age by now. He made some slides for me 13 years ago, and I'll need to send him a copy of our magazine STEIN when the issue with one of his photos comes out. BTW Could you maybe recommend some South African MM-collecter who would be willing to swap with a Norwegian collecter? Not a too advanced systematic collecter, but just someone who swaps for fun, obtaining a few nice looking micro's for his/her collection. Best regards, Ronald Werner Postboks 2 4733 Evje Norway From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 12 00:55:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (horstwindisch) Date: Wed Mar 12 00:55:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] looking for addresse References: <001c01c2e71a$d400e6b0$c95b5490@RW> <001d01c2e73a$f4d03380$593f27c4@horstspc> <003a01c2e7ed$213b6040$6f4d8ed5@RW> Message-ID: <002801c2e873$b225cce0$e84127c4@horstspc> Hi Ronald, Re exchanging South African micros for Norwegian ones:- 1) I will put in a small advert in our next issue of "MICRO NEWS AND VIEWS" about your request. I publish this quarterly Newsletter, the next issue is due in July 2003. 2) On a personal level, I would be willing to exchange with you. Please supply me with your private e-mail address and I will be able to list a few of the specimens I have for exchange. (My exchange list is not up to daste at the moment and also not yet on my PC, but this request may act as the spark to do so), Kind regards, Horst ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronald Werner" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] looking for addresse > Hi Horst, > > Many thanks for the information. I do hope Bert Hanou is still collecting, > since he will be of considerable age by now. He made some slides for me 13 > years ago, and I'll need to send him a copy of our magazine STEIN when the > issue with one of his photos comes out. > > BTW Could you maybe recommend some South African MM-collecter who would be > willing to swap with a Norwegian collecter? Not a too advanced systematic > collecter, but just someone who swaps for fun, obtaining a few nice looking > micro's for his/her collection. > > Best regards, > > Ronald Werner > Postboks 2 > 4733 Evje > Norway > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 12 06:37:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Dennis Buffenmyer) Date: Wed Mar 12 06:37:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] 35th Annual "World of Gems & Minerals" Message-ID: <3E6F4569.6050908@ptd.net> Kind list members, I would like to take this opportunity to announce the Berks Mineralogical Society 35th Annual "World of Gems & Minerals" to be held May 17 and 18, 2003 10-4 It is located at the Leesport Farmers' Market Banquet Hall, Route 61, Leesport Pa. There will be demonstrations and displays. Admission is a mere $1 (students free) and it is all held indoors in an air-conditioned building. There will be over 100 tables of dealers with their offerings. Free parking and food and refreshments are available. For more info; or dealers, please contact : Diane Gehret 1238 Rebers Bridge Road, Leesport, Pa. 19533 or email berksminer@aol.com Thank you, and also anyone who has a web site or would care to post this information in newsletter or the like may feel more than free to post this information. From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 12 07:48:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Wed Mar 12 07:48:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] 35th Annual "World of Gems & Minerals" Message-ID: <15.c60e5f7.2ba0b0a0@aol.com> All right, a show held on Monday and Tuesday, now that is a new twist. Good luck to the participants Dave --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 12 07:55:07 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Robert McGuire) Date: Wed Mar 12 07:55:07 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] 35th Annual "World of Gems & Minerals" References: <15.c60e5f7.2ba0b0a0@aol.com> Message-ID: <3E6F58AD.7833618E@epix.net> May 17 and 18 on my calendar is Sat. and Sun. BETDAV97@aol.com wrote: > > All right, a show held on Monday and Tuesday, now that is a new > twist. Good luck to the participants > Dave > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 12 08:34:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Dennis Buffenmyer) Date: Wed Mar 12 08:34:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] 35th Annual "World of Gems & Minerals" References: <15.c60e5f7.2ba0b0a0@aol.com> <3E6F58AD.7833618E@epix.net> Message-ID: <3E6F60FC.6080808@ptd.net> Thank you Robert for the sanity check.. MAY 17 & 18 2003 are sat. and sun on my calendar also Robert McGuire wrote: >May 17 and 18 on my calendar is Sat. and Sun. > >BETDAV97@aol.com wrote: > > >> All right, a show held on Monday and Tuesday, now that is a new >>twist. Good luck to the participants >>Dave >> >>--- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- >>multipart/alternative >> text/plain (text body -- kept) >> text/html >>--- >>_______________________________________________ >>Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >>WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >>Subscription Services: >>http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds >> >> >_______________________________________________ >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >Subscription Services: >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 12 09:24:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Wed Mar 12 09:24:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] 35th Annual "World of Gems & Minerals" Message-ID: <1dc.4fbf86b.2ba0c6f1@aol.com> I just saw my mistake, I read May as March, that is what happens when you get old. I probably just assumed it was this weekend. Again, my apologies to all. It was meant as a joke anyway, I have gotten quite a few flames already and not just corrections. Hey a mistake is a mistake. Dave --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 12 20:16:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Erwin WTP) Date: Wed Mar 12 20:16:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] From U Haul comes wonderful explanation In-Reply-To: References: <034501c2dd39$360c5f10$c9a1dccf@rockman> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030312231630.00a857e8@mail.charter.net> A wonderful explanation of the famed Sterling Hill deposits can be found at of all places uhaul --the truck people. http://www.uhaul.com/supergraphics/rocks/expert.html Tommy Armstrong From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Mar 13 14:52:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Scott Blair) Date: Thu Mar 13 14:52:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Looking for Flint Message-ID: Dear list: I have a person in my area (Southern Oregon) who is looking for 5 lbs. of flint - color and quality not important - one big chunk is fine, or smaller pieces OK too. He wants to use it as a fire starting aid, for a workshop he is doing on wilderness skills. I don't seem to know anyone in this area who has any flint. Anyone out there have any flint for sale? Please contact me with info at spocksrocks@hotmail.com. Thanks! Warm Regards - Scott Blair _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Mar 13 22:33:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Ray Prater, Jr.) Date: Thu Mar 13 22:33:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Looking for Flint References: Message-ID: <002701c2e9f2$dd0d77c0$9e5ce5d8@dell> Agate and jasper will also work, as will novaculite. The key seems to be a combination of hardness and toughness. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Blair To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:51 PM Subject: [Rockhounds] Looking for Flint Dear list: I have a person in my area (Southern Oregon) who is looking for 5 lbs. of flint - color and quality not important - one big chunk is fine, or smaller pieces OK too. He wants to use it as a fire starting aid, for a workshop he is doing on wilderness skills. I don't seem to know anyone in this area who has any flint. Anyone out there have any flint for sale? Please contact me with info at spocksrocks@hotmail.com. Thanks! Warm Regards - Scott Blair ____________________________________________________________ _____ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _______________________________________________ Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds Subscription Services: http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 14 18:05:02 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Peter J. Modreski) Date: Fri Mar 14 18:05:02 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] AD (sort of), benefit online mineral auction References: Message-ID: <001b01c2ea98$543233e0$c601560c@oemcomputer> Dear rock & mineral friends, I'd like to call your attention to the fact that if you didn't go to Tucson last month, you can still take part (virtually) in one of the fun activities connected with it, plus help a good cause (and add to your mineral collection). A portion of the specimens that were donated for an annual fund-raising silent auction Saturday evening in Tucson to benefit Rocks & Minerals magazine, are being offered for auction over the internet, courtesy of John Veevaert's website, http://www.trinityminerals.com On his website, click on "auction room" and when the heading of the Rocks and Mineral Auction comes up, click on the "minerals" button under "auction menu" to view the specimens (26 total, including a few books). You have to register & log in to bid. The auction just began today (March 14) and will end at 8:00 p.m., March 18. Some nice specimens, and there could be some good deals! Proceeds from this auction go to support additional color photographs in issues of Rocks & Minerals. best regards, Pete Modreski From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 17 23:56:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Italian Minerals) Date: Mon Mar 17 23:56:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] AD - Ebay items Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20030318085545.00799cf0@popmail.libero.it> Hi there, few lines to inform you that 10 new items from India have just been uploaded on Ebay for your attention and fun ! very nice LARGE crystals at very nice bidding prices and NO RESERVE ! Visit at: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&include=0&userid =italianminerals Visit also our web site at: http://www.italianminerals.com best regards, ItalianMinerals.com ===================== Visit us at: http://www.ItalianMinerals.com for quality minerals !! Check our auctions on Ebay at: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=itali anminerals ===================== From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Mar 18 12:26:59 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Tue Mar 18 12:26:59 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Bestminerals Message-ID: <200303182012.PAA11560@vs16.areaserver.it> Dear friends, www.bestminerals.com is starting again. In the last twelve, eighteen months the site has been neglected and not updated, as I have been unable to work on it through my own computer. During this time I have presented and sold my samples through Geo-Auction and I want to take advantage of this occasion to send Jogchum T. Post, the Geo-Auction owner, my warmest thanks for his very kind hospitality and cooperation. My deep appreciation also to all the many collectors, from U.S.A. to Japan and Australia, who purchased samples from me. I am very proud to claim that up to now, 100% of purchasers has manifested great satisfaction both in the quality of the specimens and the quality/cost ratio. This was the main reason why I decided to rebuild and restyle www.bestminerals.com with the target of offering to the old and new clients always better samples at always better conditions. By divulging the knowledge on Sardinian mineralogy and on the glorious past of Sardinian mines,my ambition is to become one of the top mineralogical web sites both in the commercial and cultural field. Now we are starting with a selection of about 200 specimens (more than 50 mineralogical species) priced from Euro 4000,00 down to Euro 9,00 in the commercial galleries and with more than 1000 photos of samples belonging to my own collection (I recomend you to view the albums "Barite 1" and "Barite 2" where you can see the images of 45 top class samples of Sardinian Barites)and very soon many other samples, also from other collectors and dealers will be added. During the first two months of activity of the new site (up to May 15) a special discount of 5.0% will be give. This discount will go up to 10.0% in case of samples priced min. Euro 1000,00 or cumulative orders for the same ammount. I am very glad to announce that Jogchum T. Post's cooperation will continue and that in www.bestminerals.com there will be the Jogchum's Minerals Gallery. Now, please click on www.bestminerals.com and enjoy it. To join this list click here: http://www.bestminerals.com/m.php?m=BM_Join Thanks and regard Giorgio ******************************************* copyright 2003 bestminerals www.bestminerals.com ****************************************** From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 19 05:43:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Wed Mar 19 05:43:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] test Message-ID: <118.209c0fe8.2ba9cdbd@aol.com> I've been getting no mail at Drizzle, is it down? --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 19 14:26:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Axel Emmermann) Date: Wed Mar 19 14:26:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] test References: <118.209c0fe8.2ba9cdbd@aol.com> Message-ID: <000f01c2ee66$b9a0e740$689f77d5@pandora.be> I've been under attack from viruses (NIMDA, BugBear) VERY seriously the past few days... maybe some people are down? Axel Emmermann Mineralogische Kring Antwerpen MINERANT 2003 - Mineralen en fossielen beurs Dit jaar NIEUWE LOCATIE! "Stuurboord - hangar 26-27", Rijnkaai 96, Antwerpen. Grote parking ! Waar: Scheldekaaien naast de ATV-studio's ter hoogte vd Londonstraat. Route: http://www.stuurboord.com/gif/map.gif http://www.minerant.org/MKA/minerantnl.html Werkgroepen Fluorescentie & Technische Realisaties Home : Lobbesplein 12 B-2640 Mortsel Belgium Tel: +32 (0)3 295.35.54 E-mail: axel.emmermann@pandora.be Visit our homepage: http://www.minerant.org/index.html Bezoek onze web-site: http://www.minerant.org/MKA/index.html My own web-site: http://users.pandora.be/axel.emmerman/home/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 2:42 PM Subject: [Rockhounds] test | | I've been getting no mail at Drizzle, is it down? | | | --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- | multipart/alternative | text/plain (text body -- kept) | text/html | --- | _______________________________________________ | Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List | WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds | Subscription Services: | http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds | From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 19 14:59:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (frank de wit) Date: Wed Mar 19 14:59:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] test References: <118.209c0fe8.2ba9cdbd@aol.com> <000f01c2ee66$b9a0e740$689f77d5@pandora.be> Message-ID: <000901c2ee6a$cd326050$907ba8c0@cm333814LT> o yeah very down indeed I'm lying in bed at the moment with the laptop watching CNN, zapping, surfing waiting for %^%^@#@# Bush to push a wrong button very down... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Axel Emmermann" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] test > I've been under attack from viruses (NIMDA, BugBear) VERY seriously the past > few days... maybe some people are down? > > Axel Emmermann > Mineralogische Kring Antwerpen > MINERANT 2003 - Mineralen en fossielen beurs > Dit jaar NIEUWE LOCATIE! > "Stuurboord - hangar 26-27", Rijnkaai 96, Antwerpen. Grote parking ! > Waar: Scheldekaaien naast de ATV-studio's ter hoogte vd Londonstraat. > Route: http://www.stuurboord.com/gif/map.gif > http://www.minerant.org/MKA/minerantnl.html > > Werkgroepen Fluorescentie & Technische Realisaties > Home : Lobbesplein 12 > B-2640 Mortsel > Belgium > Tel: +32 (0)3 295.35.54 > E-mail: > axel.emmermann@pandora.be > Visit our homepage: > http://www.minerant.org/index.html > Bezoek onze web-site: > http://www.minerant.org/MKA/index.html > My own web-site: > http://users.pandora.be/axel.emmerman/home/index.htm > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 2:42 PM > Subject: [Rockhounds] test > > > | > | I've been getting no mail at Drizzle, is it down? > | > | > | --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > | multipart/alternative > | text/plain (text body -- kept) > | text/html > | --- > | _______________________________________________ > | Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > | WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > | Subscription Services: > | http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > | > > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 19 16:58:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Aaron Fox) Date: Wed Mar 19 16:58:00 2003 Subject: [ADMIN] [Rockhounds] test In-Reply-To: <000901c2ee6a$cd326050$907ba8c0@cm333814LT> Message-ID: To paraphrase a movie: "Just a minor weapons malfunction. We're fine here, we're all fine here. How are you?" Seriously, Drizzle is up and running. However, the spam load *has* been huge. Aaron > o yeah > very down indeed > I'm lying in bed at the moment with the laptop > watching CNN, zapping, surfing > waiting for %^%^@#@# Bush to push a wrong button > very down... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Axel Emmermann" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 11:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] test > > > > I've been under attack from viruses (NIMDA, BugBear) VERY seriously the > past > > few days... maybe some people are down? > > > > Axel Emmermann > > Mineralogische Kring Antwerpen > > MINERANT 2003 - Mineralen en fossielen beurs > > Dit jaar NIEUWE LOCATIE! > > "Stuurboord - hangar 26-27", Rijnkaai 96, Antwerpen. Grote parking ! > > Waar: Scheldekaaien naast de ATV-studio's ter hoogte vd Londonstraat. > > Route: http://www.stuurboord.com/gif/map.gif > > http://www.minerant.org/MKA/minerantnl.html > > > > Werkgroepen Fluorescentie & Technische Realisaties > > Home : Lobbesplein 12 > > B-2640 Mortsel > > Belgium > > Tel: +32 (0)3 295.35.54 > > E-mail: > > axel.emmermann@pandora.be > > Visit our homepage: > > http://www.minerant.org/index.html > > Bezoek onze web-site: > > http://www.minerant.org/MKA/index.html > > My own web-site: > > http://users.pandora.be/axel.emmerman/home/index.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 2:42 PM > > Subject: [Rockhounds] test > > > > > > | > > | I've been getting no mail at Drizzle, is it down? > > | > > | > > | --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > > | multipart/alternative > > | text/plain (text body -- kept) > > | text/html > > | --- > > | _______________________________________________ > > | Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > > | WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > > | Subscription Services: > > | http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > | > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > > Subscription Services: > > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > -- afox@drizzle.com || http://www.drizzle.com/~afox GnuPG Public Key Available upon Request "Disinformation is not as good as datinformation..." From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 19 17:45:59 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kitty & Bill Heacox) Date: Wed Mar 19 17:45:59 2003 Subject: [ADMIN] [Rockhounds] test In-Reply-To: References: <000901c2ee6a$cd326050$907ba8c0@cm333814LT> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030319154825.02c3ae30@mail.aloha.net> At 02:57 PM 3/19/2003, you wrote: >To paraphrase a movie: > >"Just a minor weapons malfunction. We're fine here, we're all fine here. >How are you?" > >Aaron Let me guess which movie...It's one of the Star Wars trilogy, can't remember which one, but Han Solo (Harrison Ford) is responding to inquiries from some of the Galactic Empire Bad Guys, trying to assure them that nothing is wrong while he's trying to destroy them. Is it Return of the Jedi? Aloha, Kitty --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 3/17/2003 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed text/plain (text body -- kept) text/plain (text body -- kept) --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 19 18:09:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Gary Brown) Date: Wed Mar 19 18:09:01 2003 Subject: [ADMIN] [Rockhounds] test In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030319154825.02c3ae30@mail.aloha.net> Message-ID: Hans Solo in the control room of the jail. He and Chewie have just shot out all the monitors. Star Wars Episode IV (The Original ... and BEST!). GcB > -----Original Message----- > From: rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com > [mailto:rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com]On Behalf Of Kitty & Bill > Heacox > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 7:59 PM > To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com > Subject: Re: [ADMIN] [Rockhounds] test > > > At 02:57 PM 3/19/2003, you wrote: > > >To paraphrase a movie: > > > >"Just a minor weapons malfunction. We're fine here, we're all fine here. > >How are you?" > > > >Aaron > > Let me guess which movie...It's one of the Star Wars trilogy, can't > remember which one, but Han Solo (Harrison Ford) is responding to > inquiries > from some of the Galactic Empire Bad Guys, trying to assure them that > nothing is wrong while he's trying to destroy them. Is it Return > of the Jedi? > > Aloha, Kitty > > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 19 18:40:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Tommy Armstrong) Date: Wed Mar 19 18:40:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] test In-Reply-To: <000901c2ee6a$cd326050$907ba8c0@cm333814LT> Message-ID: Sorry to hear you are very down--I myself am ready for us to put the "%^%^@#@#" Sadam where he should be before he pushes the wrong button. Tommy Armstrong N 35* 23' 52'' W 78* 49' 9'' > > o yeah > very down indeed > I'm lying in bed at the moment with the laptop > watching CNN, zapping, surfing > waiting for %^%^@#@# Bush to push a wrong button > very down... > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 19 18:50:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kitty & Bill Heacox) Date: Wed Mar 19 18:50:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] test In-Reply-To: References: <000901c2ee6a$cd326050$907ba8c0@cm333814LT> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030319170157.0274a8f0@mail.aloha.net> Can we stop this now and stick to rocks? Let's not have another flame war like we did after 9/11. Aloha, Kitty At 04:46 PM 3/19/2003, you wrote: >Sorry to hear you are very down--I myself am ready for us to put the >"%^%^@#@#" Sadam where he should be before he pushes the wrong button. > >Tommy Armstrong >N 35* 23' 52'' W 78* 49' 9'' > > > > o yeah > > very down indeed > > I'm lying in bed at the moment with the laptop > > watching CNN, zapping, surfing > > waiting for %^%^@#@# Bush to push a wrong button > > very down... > > > >_______________________________________________ >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >Subscription Services: >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 3/17/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 3/17/2003 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed text/plain (text body -- kept) text/plain (text body -- kept) --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 19 19:29:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Wed Mar 19 19:29:00 2003 Subject: [ADMIN] [Rockhounds] test Message-ID: <127.2545d148.2baa8f64@aol.com> Hi All, It's good to hear that everyone is up and running. AOL has been talking a lot about spam, and I just wondered if threads on the list signaled some sort of spam alarm. Thanks everyone, Dave --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 19 19:37:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kreigh Tomaszewski) Date: Wed Mar 19 19:37:00 2003 Subject: [ADMIN] [Rockhounds] test References: Message-ID: <3E793742.1AC3@Tomaszewski.net> And this is completely on topic considering the 'rocky' start the thread had. Kreigh Gary Brown wrote: > > Hans Solo in the control room of the jail. He and Chewie have just shot out > all the monitors. Star Wars Episode IV (The Original ... and BEST!). > > GcB > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com > > [mailto:rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com]On Behalf Of Kitty & Bill > > Heacox > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 7:59 PM > > To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com > > Subject: Re: [ADMIN] [Rockhounds] test > > > > > > At 02:57 PM 3/19/2003, you wrote: > > > > >To paraphrase a movie: > > > > > >"Just a minor weapons malfunction. We're fine here, we're all fine here. > > >How are you?" > > > > > >Aaron > > > > Let me guess which movie...It's one of the Star Wars trilogy, can't > > remember which one, but Han Solo (Harrison Ford) is responding to > > inquiries > > from some of the Galactic Empire Bad Guys, trying to assure them that > > nothing is wrong while he's trying to destroy them. Is it Return > > of the Jedi? > > > > Aloha, Kitty > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 19 19:43:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (mysfit) Date: Wed Mar 19 19:43:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] test In-Reply-To: References: <000901c2ee6a$cd326050$907ba8c0@cm333814LT> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20030319204128.00b197d8@pop.mindspring.com> Sounds like that is underway.......while people may disagree about the course, no one disagrees that he needs to go At 09:46 PM 3/19/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Sorry to hear you are very down--I myself am ready for us to put the >"%^%^@#@#" Sadam where he should be before he pushes the wrong button. > >Tommy Armstrong >N 35* 23' 52'' W 78* 49' 9'' > > > > o yeah > > very down indeed > > I'm lying in bed at the moment with the laptop > > watching CNN, zapping, surfing > > waiting for %^%^@#@# Bush to push a wrong button > > very down... > > > >_______________________________________________ >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >Subscription Services: >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Wed Mar 19 20:09:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Dri) Date: Wed Mar 19 20:09:01 2003 Subject: [ADMIN] [Rockhounds] test References: Message-ID: <001c01c2ee96$750bae00$6801a8c0@dslverizon.net> reading y'all 5x5 here in Mountlake Terrace,WA Dri-Anna (Two Spirit) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Fox" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 16:57 Subject: [ADMIN] [Rockhounds] test > To paraphrase a movie: > > "Just a minor weapons malfunction. We're fine here, we're all fine here. > How are you?" > > Seriously, Drizzle is up and running. However, the spam load *has* been > huge. > > Aaron > > > o yeah > > very down indeed > > I'm lying in bed at the moment with the laptop > > watching CNN, zapping, surfing > > waiting for %^%^@#@# Bush to push a wrong button > > very down... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Axel Emmermann" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 11:27 PM > > Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] test > > > > > > > I've been under attack from viruses (NIMDA, BugBear) VERY seriously the > > past > > > few days... maybe some people are down? > > > > > > Axel Emmermann > > > Mineralogische Kring Antwerpen > > > MINERANT 2003 - Mineralen en fossielen beurs > > > Dit jaar NIEUWE LOCATIE! > > > "Stuurboord - hangar 26-27", Rijnkaai 96, Antwerpen. Grote parking ! > > > Waar: Scheldekaaien naast de ATV-studio's ter hoogte vd Londonstraat. > > > Route: http://www.stuurboord.com/gif/map.gif > > > http://www.minerant.org/MKA/minerantnl.html > > > > > > Werkgroepen Fluorescentie & Technische Realisaties > > > Home : Lobbesplein 12 > > > B-2640 Mortsel > > > Belgium > > > Tel: +32 (0)3 295.35.54 > > > E-mail: > > > axel.emmermann@pandora.be > > > Visit our homepage: > > > http://www.minerant.org/index.html > > > Bezoek onze web-site: > > > http://www.minerant.org/MKA/index.html > > > My own web-site: > > > http://users.pandora.be/axel.emmerman/home/index.htm > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 2:42 PM > > > Subject: [Rockhounds] test > > > > > > > > > | > > > | I've been getting no mail at Drizzle, is it down? > > > | > > > | > > > | --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > > > | multipart/alternative > > > | text/plain (text body -- kept) > > > | text/html > > > | --- > > > | _______________________________________________ > > > | Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > > > | WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > > > | Subscription Services: > > > | http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > > | > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > > > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > > > Subscription Services: > > > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > > Subscription Services: > > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > > > -- > afox@drizzle.com || http://www.drizzle.com/~afox > GnuPG Public Key Available upon Request > "Disinformation is not as good as datinformation..." > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Mar 20 00:50:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Axel Emmermann) Date: Thu Mar 20 00:50:01 2003 Subject: [ADMIN] [Rockhounds] test References: <000901c2ee6a$cd326050$907ba8c0@cm333814LT> <5.1.0.14.0.20030319154825.02c3ae30@mail.aloha.net> Message-ID: <002a01c2eebd$fc034ea0$85ab77d5@pandora.be> | >"Just a minor weapons malfunction. We're fine here, we're all fine here. | >How are you?" | > Hmmmm... I'd rather say it's an inspired bedside conversation from the pre-Viagra era. Axel From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Mar 20 06:57:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (William S. Cordua) Date: Thu Mar 20 06:57:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Rock show rescheduled In-Reply-To: <002a01c2eebd$fc034ea0$85ab77d5@pandora.be> References: <000901c2ee6a$cd326050$907ba8c0@cm333814LT> <5.1.0.14.0.20030319154825.02c3ae30@mail.aloha.net> Message-ID: Hi, I am show chairman for the St. Croix Rockhounds in Minnesota. We were to have an educational show this Saturday in the Valley Creek Mall in Woodbury ( as listed in Rock and Gem), but we had to cancel. The mall had mistakenly booked an art show on top of us and told us they no longer had space for our show that day, even though we were on the books first. We have REscheduled the show for Saturday April 12 from 9:00 A.M. to 5:00 P.M. at the Valley Creek Mall in Woodbury, MN. Exit I-494 on Valley Creek Drive (exit 59) and turn right to the mall. The event is free and open to the public. Anyone is welcome to bring rock specimens for club members or UW - River Falls geology faculty (me) to identify. That is also the week-end when the Anoka County, Minnesota club will have a selling show a bit to the northwest at the Har Mar Mall. Come out and enjoy both events! It's begining to sound like "Tucson of the north" on April 12. Best wishes - Bill Cordua Dr. William S. Cordua Professor of Geology/Mineralogy University of Wisconsin - River Falls 410 South Third Street River Falls, WI 54022 715-425-3139 william.s.cordua@uwrf.edu "Speak to the Earth and it shall teach thee" - Job 12:8 From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Mar 20 07:47:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Bob Loeffler) Date: Thu Mar 20 07:47:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Digging vs. the Denver snow storm Message-ID: Hi all, Just thought I would start the list up again by talking about digging vs. the Denver snow storm. :-) The last two weekends I had gone up into the Tarryall Mountains west of Denver to the Spruce Grove campground area to dig for topaz crystals. The first weekend I didn't dig much because I thought there would still be a lot of snow from the last storm up there so I didn't bring all of my digging equipment. After hiking uphill for 1.25 miles, I found that there were plenty of places where I could've dug. I did mostly surface collecting and didn't find anything worth mentioning. The second weekend I went up after the weather had been very warm so I knew there would be even more places to dig up there. Therefore, I took more equipment. Boy was that tiring! I forgot that I had gotten out of shape during the winter and it took me about 45 minutes (after 8 rests) to hike to the digging areas. I did several hours of digging but found only a couple pieces of topaz and one weird looking smoky quartz crystal. One day later, the storm hit Denver... HARD... and we are now digging out of it. I live in Lakewood which is a suburb of Denver. I got 34" of snow in less than 36 hours and my townhouse is only 8 miles southwest of downtown Denver. I can't even get out of my neighborhood! I'm waiting for the snow removal service to get here and do their thing, and the Sun is finally shining, so I'm hoping to get to work around noon today. It's gonna be strange after sitting at home for 2 "snow days" and playing in the snow. Anyway, I heard there will be another storm this weekend and then another around the middle of next week, so I won't be digging again for awhile. Luckily the storms won't be nearly as bad as this one (a record breaker!). Hopefully others are having better luck (and weather). Regards, Bob Loeffler Field Trip Chairman and Webmaster North Jeffco Gem & Mineral Club (Arvada, CO USA) http://www.peaktopeak.com/minerals/njeffco/ and a member of the Rock & Mineral Society (RAMS) Check out the largest Colorado Rockhounding website at: http://www.peaktopeak.com/minerals/colorado/ From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Mar 20 12:41:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (John McLaughlin) Date: Thu Mar 20 12:41:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Digging vs. the Denver snow storm References: Message-ID: <3E7A2988.C862255B@amug.org> Don't complain Bob. You are getting the mineral ya'll are most in need of. If you really get tired of it, try to direct some down to Arizona. We will be deeply appreciative. John McLaughlin Glendale, Arizona Bob Loeffler wrote: > Anyway, I heard there will be another storm this weekend and then another > around the middle of next week, so I won't be digging again for awhile. > Luckily the storms won't be nearly as bad as this one (a record breaker!). > > Hopefully others are having better luck (and weather). From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Mar 20 14:31:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Tommy Armstrong) Date: Thu Mar 20 14:31:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] test In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030319170157.0274a8f0@mail.aloha.net> Message-ID: > Can we stop this now and stick to rocks? Let's not have another I can---what kind of minerals come from Iraq other than oil. It seems that I have a specimen from Iran,Cyprus, Turkey, Afghanistan, Uzbe...,Azer..., Pakistan, even Saudi Arabia. What does Iraq have to offer. Seriously, maybe this is a good time, with all the attention on that area of the world, to do a bit of mineralogical education about that part of the world. Tommy Armstrong N 35* 23' 52'' W 78* 49' 9'' From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Mar 20 22:24:06 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (frank de wit) Date: Thu Mar 20 22:24:06 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] test References: Message-ID: <001001c2ef72$372fe0b0$907ba8c0@cm333814LT> from my personal database: Iraq Dupezeh mt Hero, Qala-Dizeh region L12/86; L6/86; Shah-Kuh Mine/Kola Mine Darwazeh, Esfahan Iran? A3/78; Sinjar Mosul L2/81; Iran (if anyone wants 'to go to' Iran after Iraq ;-))) Kali Kafi mine Anarak L6/96; Nakhlak Anarak L11/79; Nishapur/Nishabur Meshed Chorassan L1/95; L5/94; Saghand A1/77; Talmessi mine Anarak +in general Iran/Persie +in general "L11/95; L12/94; L5/94; A4/82; Anarak in general: L6/95; A2/76; Iran in general: A6/81; articles/magazines: L=Lapis A=Aufschluss Cheers! Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tommy Armstrong" To: Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 11:38 PM Subject: RE: [Rockhounds] test > > > > Can we stop this now and stick to rocks? Let's not have another > > > I can---what kind of minerals come from Iraq other than oil. It seems that I > have a specimen from Iran,Cyprus, Turkey, Afghanistan, Uzbe...,Azer..., > Pakistan, even Saudi Arabia. What does Iraq have to offer. Seriously, maybe > this is a good time, with all the attention on that area of the world, to do > a bit of mineralogical education about that part of the world. > > Tommy Armstrong > N 35* 23' 52'' W 78* 49' 9'' > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 21 05:45:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Fri Mar 21 05:45:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] test Message-ID: <200303211344.h2LDira5012349@bubbleator.drizzle.com> What do those letters and numbers mean? I.e., L12/86. Don From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 21 08:51:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Lanny) Date: Fri Mar 21 08:51:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] test In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030319170157.0274a8f0@mail.aloha.net> Message-ID: Not much in the mineral periodicals on Iraq: Baghdadite (type locality), baddeleyite, calcite, melilite, perovskite, schorlomite, wollastonite Dubezeh Mtn., Hero Town, Qala-Dizeh region Curienite Iraq, Akashat Lanny >> Can we stop this now and stick to rocks? Let's not have another > > >I can---what kind of minerals come from Iraq other than oil. It seems that I >have a specimen from Iran,Cyprus, Turkey, Afghanistan, Uzbe...,Azer..., >Pakistan, even Saudi Arabia. What does Iraq have to offer. Seriously, maybe >this is a good time, with all the attention on that area of the world, to do >a bit of mineralogical education about that part of the world. > >Tommy Armstrong >N 35* 23' 52'' W 78* 49' 9'' > >_______________________________________________ >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >Subscription Services: >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lanny R. Ream - lanny@mineralnews.com - http://www.mineralnews.com Owner/Publisher - LR Ream Publishing Publisher of Mineral News, mineral guidebooks and mineral software: MinDex: the Mineral-Periodical Index and The Mineral Database From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 21 09:44:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (frank de wit) Date: Fri Mar 21 09:44:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] test References: <200303211344.h2LDira5012349@bubbleator.drizzle.com> Message-ID: <004701c2efd1$5f974e30$907ba8c0@cm333814LT> articles on the locality L=Lapis, A=Aufschluss L12/86=Lapis-month/year ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] test > > What do those letters and numbers mean? I.e., L12/86. > > Don > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 21 15:24:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (John McLaughlin) Date: Fri Mar 21 15:24:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] test References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030319170157.0274a8f0@mail.aloha.net> Message-ID: <3E7BA137.355C584A@amug.org> Baghdadite is very difficult to locate, as it moves around from one underground mine to another somewhat unpredictably. Additionally, it has a number of pseudomorphs which have been altered to resemble it, making accurate field identification difficult. Sorry, couldn't resist. A very famous location in Arizona is the town and copper mine of Bagdad (no "h"). The huge open pit copper mine has produced many great specimens of copper carbonates and other associated minerals. John McLaughlin Glendale, Arizona Lanny wrote: > Not much in the mineral periodicals on Iraq: > > Baghdadite (type locality), baddeleyite, calcite, melilite, perovskite, > schorlomite, wollastonite > Dubezeh Mtn., Hero Town, Qala-Dizeh region > > Curienite > Iraq, Akashat > > Lanny From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 21 16:21:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Ydain) Date: Fri Mar 21 16:21:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Mineral webzine updated References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030319170157.0274a8f0@mail.aloha.net> <3E7BA137.355C584A@amug.org> Message-ID: <000401c2f008$e49e9d40$3d5f3151@z3e0m1> Hi all !! The number 9 of the 'zine is now on line : --> new articles, new pictures. --> all the articles for the past issues are on line. --> a free presentation of books. --> A FREE ADS PAGE !!! Y. Dain French collector of minerals http://www.chez.com/mineralzine/ From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 21 18:44:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kitty & Bill Heacox) Date: Fri Mar 21 18:44:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] lava report & a question Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030321155232.03055630@mail.aloha.net> Hi List, To celebrate the vernal equinox and escape news of the war, I went down to look at the lava again. The USGS site ( http://www.amazon.com/o/ya/V2J3JXHJXRN2GU/ ) had reported that there's a surface flow that's "near the end of the road and provides good viewing." The good news is that the new lava is indeed only a short walk from the end of the pavement. The bad news is that when they moved the ranger hut, restrooms, and parking area out of the lava's path several weeks ago, they decided to move it WAY back down the road. So one has to make a walk down the pavement for about 20 minutes to reach the lava. Today it was very windy and hot, so that 20 minutes seemed longer...especially on the way back. Another bad news was that the "good viewing" wasn't very spectacular. Tourists who had never seen lava---hot or cold---before, were pleased. But there was no moving lava, and the only red to be seen was back in cracks crevices. Still, I'm always fascinated by seeing the results of such power. Awesome is not an overused word for that scenery. As I walked up to the flow that forced the withdrawal of the ranger facilities on February 15, I could feel heat still radiating from it. It was still hot to the touch, more than a month later (and that was not just from the sun)! I could hear it making that "clink" sound that any potter recognizes as similar to what clay makes for a long while after being removed from a kiln. As I followed the trail markers (as well as the line of visitors from a couple of tour busses) I could feel the heat radiating from the lava beneath my feet, and after a while, through the soles of my heavy shoes. This is a pahoehoe flow, with shiny and often iridescent surfaces that appear smooth, and frequently is folded and rippled. When I reached the "viewing area," the heat was intense---like standing in front of a huge oven---and some bright red spots were visible in cracks. A teenager said, "That is so cool!...I mean, hot!" As on my previous trips, I used a cane to steady myself because of two bad knees. But remember my mentioning "shelly pahoehoe?" (Richard Dale wrote "I thought I remembered Shelly Pahoehoe as the Tongan girl in one of my old college classes!") Well, a pahoehoe surface that looks smooth can actually be composed of several layers of "shell" that will slide off, making a sound a bit like dropping a lot of pennies on a brick. I slipped on some of that Tongan girl friend stuff and fell down---not badly, because the good news is I caught myself with the flat of my hand on some other shelly stuff. The bad news is that my hand came up covered with blood. It didn't even hurt, but when I washed it off later, the palm of my hand was covered with a half a dozen little cuts as if from tiny shards of glass. In fact, that's probably pretty close to what it was! Speaking of "what it was," here's a question which will confirm to some of you how ignorant I am of physical geology: As I walked over the new lava flow I was surprised to find several places where it looked as if someone had dropped some splashes of aluminum paint. Then I thought maybe someone had dropped an aluminum can that had melted and then sort of exploded. But then I saw that splats of silver-colored stuff were scattered all around in several different locations. Each splat was about the size of a quarter---no more than 3 cm in diameter, and strangely, none much smaller than 2 cm. The material looks like metal, but does not bend or scratch easily. I stopped at the Visitor Center and asked a ranger if he knew what the "silver splashes" were, and he tried to say something that would sound intelligent, and it came out sort of like this: "Well, it has to do with the chemicals that come out, they kind of oxidize, well, not oxidize exactly, but certain elements come out so they look different in different light, and it has to do with the temperature, and you know, that's a question a lot of people ask; it's a really good question." I picked up a couple of them and brought them home (I know you're not supposed to collect from National Parks, but this area is outside the park). I'll try to get good photos of them and can send them to anyone who'd like to see them. Anybody know what this is from my description? Aloha, Kitty --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 3/17/2003 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html text/plain (text body -- kept) --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 21 19:31:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Tommy Armstrong) Date: Fri Mar 21 19:31:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] test In-Reply-To: <3E7BA137.355C584A@amug.org> Message-ID: Baghdadite If you are able to locate any, I would like to have a thumbnail. Perhaps the best identification method would be the old blowpipe and charcoal method. Mindat really is a nifty resource Curienite--Forms a series with FRANCEvillite Akashat Mine, Iraq A phosphate mine producing about 1 million tons/year. Started 1982. Bombs also fell on Akashat, a town about 300 miles west of Baghdad near the Syrian border http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iraq/images/iraq-map_un1996.jpg far left good maps of Iraq http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iraq/maps.htm http://www.mideastweb.org/miraqd.htm Tommy Armstrong N 35* 23' 52'' W 78* 49' 9'' > -----Original Message----- > From: rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com > [mailto:rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com]On Behalf Of John McLaughlin > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 6:33 PM > To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com > Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] test > > > Baghdadite is very difficult to locate, as it moves around from > one underground > mine to another somewhat unpredictably. Additionally, it has a number of > pseudomorphs which have been altered to resemble it, making accurate field > identification difficult. > > Sorry, couldn't resist. > > A very famous location in Arizona is the town and copper mine of > Bagdad (no > "h"). The huge open pit copper mine has produced many great > specimens of copper > carbonates and other associated minerals. > > John McLaughlin > Glendale, Arizona > > Lanny wrote: > > > Not much in the mineral periodicals on Iraq: > > > > Baghdadite (type locality), baddeleyite, calcite, melilite, perovskite, > > schorlomite, wollastonite > > Dubezeh Mtn., Hero Town, Qala-Dizeh region > > > > Curienite > > Iraq, Akashat > > > > Lanny > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 21 21:34:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kreigh Tomaszewski) Date: Fri Mar 21 21:34:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] lava report & a question References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030321155232.03055630@mail.aloha.net> Message-ID: <3E7BF5AA.5323@Tomaszewski.net> Kitty, The snowflakes in snowflake obsidian are usually Cristobalite. Sometimes you can find a specimen that has the snowflakes lining small bubbles instead of being included/imbedded in the rock itself. I expect what you found are the result of gas bubbles that changed the chemistry of a limited area of contact (and the reaction dissapated the bubbles). The small microenvironments caused by bubbles might be where you could identify a new mineral. I remember a collector in Japan who had found several new minerals (and had the honor of naming them) by being aware of these types of environments and taking the efforts to have them analyized. I would like to see any pictures you have taken. Kreigh Kitty & Bill Heacox wrote: > > Speaking of "what it was," here's a question which will confirm to some of > you how ignorant I am of physical geology: As I walked over the new lava > flow I was surprised to find several places where it looked as if someone > had dropped some splashes of aluminum paint. Then I thought maybe someone > had dropped an aluminum can that had melted and then sort of exploded. But > then I saw that splats of silver-colored stuff were scattered all around > in several different locations. Each splat was about the size of a > quarter---no more than 3 cm in diameter, and strangely, none much smaller > than 2 cm. The material looks like metal, but does not bend or scratch > easily. I stopped at the Visitor Center and asked a ranger if he knew what > the "silver splashes" were, and he tried to say something that would sound > intelligent, and it came out sort of like this: "Well, it has to do with > the chemicals that come out, they kind of oxidize, well, not oxidize > exactly, but certain elements come out so they look different in different > light, and it has to do with the temperature, and you know, that's a > question a lot of people ask; it's a really good question." I picked up a > couple of them and brought them home (I know you're not supposed to collect > from National Parks, but this area is outside the park). I'll try to get > good photos of them and can send them to anyone who'd like to see > them. Anybody know what this is from my description? > > Aloha, Kitty From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Mar 22 12:21:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Rik Dillen) Date: Sat Mar 22 12:21:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] lava report & a question In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030321155232.03055630@mail.aloha.net> Message-ID: Hi Kitty, I'm afraid that the URL you mentioned is completely wrong... I think that you are exposing some private administration. Could you verify please ? Greetings, Rik Dillen -----Original Message----- From: rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com [mailto:rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com]On Behalf Of Kitty & Bill Heacox Sent: 22 March, 2003 3:58 AM To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Subject: [Rockhounds] lava report & a question To celebrate the vernal equinox and escape news of the war, I went down to look at the lava again. The USGS site ( http://www.amazon.com/o/ya/V2J3JXHJXRN2GU/ )had reported that there's a surface flow that's "near the end of the road ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------- Rik DILLEN Doornstraat 15 B-9170 Sint-Gillis-Waas Belgium Tel. + 32 3 7706007 E-mail rik.dillen@skynet.be Homepage : http://users.skynet.be/rik.dillen >>> Belgian minerals (ardennite, vantasselite, ferristrunzite and more) >>> An own find on a Korean (and now again on a Guinean) postage stamp ! >>> Exchange list Mineral collector's page http://www.minerant.org/ >>> The Dana errata page, the Virtual Quarry and much more ! MINERANT 2003 - Minerals and fossils show ATTENTION ! NEW LOCATION ! "Stuurboord - hangar 26-27", Rijnkaai 96, B-2000 Antwerpen 10 ' north of "Het Steen", Schelde - see http://www.stuurboord.com/gif/map.gif Large parking lot ! http://www.minerant.org/MKA/minerantnl.html From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Mar 22 17:18:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kitty & Bill Heacox) Date: Sat Mar 22 17:18:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] lava report correction Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030322152356.02000060@mail.aloha.net> Hi List, I gave the wrong URL for the USGS update of lava activity at Kilauea. Here's the right one: http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/kilauea/update/main.html Also, I stated (from my experience) that the viewing yesterday was not spectacular...well, by coincidence Bill (my husband) took a visiting astronomy professor (from Pennsylvania) to see the lava three hours after I did, and while they were standing there looking at red glowing crevices, a portion of black, relatively cool pahoehoe broke open and our poured nice fresh lava in a small, slow-moving, but very impressive flow. Aloha, Kitty --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 3/17/2003 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html text/plain (text body -- kept) --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Mar 22 17:50:02 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Sat Mar 22 17:50:02 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] San Diego Sites Message-ID: <2b.3bd75c5a.2bae6c8a@aol.com> I'm taking my wife to San Diego for her graduation in June (Vet Tech) and thought I vaguely remembered someone talking about a beach there ... Jade Beach? Any takers? Warm Regards Shawn --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Mar 22 19:13:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Tim Fisher) Date: Sat Mar 22 19:13:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] San Diego Sites In-Reply-To: <2b.3bd75c5a.2bae6c8a@aol.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.5.2.20030322191035.015cc0a8@mail.spiritone.com> Jade Beach is in N Cali. I plan on visiting any open tourmaline mine in SD in April. Other than these private claims I know of little in the area besides so-so marine beach fossil deposits at the smuggler cliffs in north La Jolla. At 08:48 PM 3/22/2003 -0500, you wrote: >I'm taking my wife to San Diego for her graduation in June (Vet Tech) and >thought I vaguely remembered someone talking about a beach there ... Jade >Beach? Any takers? > >Warm Regards >Shawn > > >--- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- >multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html >--- >_______________________________________________ >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >Subscription Services: >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds Tim Fisher Ore-ROCK-On! mailto:tim@OreRockOn.com Web Site: http://OreRockOn.com From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Mar 22 19:58:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Bob Loeffler) Date: Sat Mar 22 19:58:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Digging vs. the Denver snow storm In-Reply-To: <3E7A2988.C862255B@amug.org> Message-ID: Hi John, Yes, I know, snow and water are much needed here in Colorado and other parts of the southwest. We just want it spread out more instead of dumping all at once. :-) And it would be nice if most of the snowfall occured higher up in the mountains where our main reservoirs are located. Regards, Bob Loeffler Field Trip Chairman and Webmaster North Jeffco Gem & Mineral Club (Arvada, CO USA) http://www.peaktopeak.com/minerals/njeffco/ and a member of the Rock & Mineral Society (RAMS) Check out the largest Colorado Rockhounding website at: http://www.peaktopeak.com/minerals/colorado/ -----Original Message----- From: rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com [mailto:rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com]On Behalf Of John McLaughlin Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 1:50 PM To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Digging vs. the Denver snow storm Don't complain Bob. You are getting the mineral ya'll are most in need of. If you really get tired of it, try to direct some down to Arizona. We will be deeply appreciative. John McLaughlin Glendale, Arizona Bob Loeffler wrote: > Anyway, I heard there will be another storm this weekend and then another > around the middle of next week, so I won't be digging again for awhile. > Luckily the storms won't be nearly as bad as this one (a record breaker!). > > Hopefully others are having better luck (and weather). _______________________________________________ Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds Subscription Services: http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Mar 22 20:01:06 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Teresa Masters) Date: Sat Mar 22 20:01:06 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] San Diego Sites References: <2b.3bd75c5a.2bae6c8a@aol.com> Message-ID: <3E7D3166.40305A26@cox.net> Shawn, I live in Oceanside, Ca. The beaches from Carlsbad on down the coast are great collecting sites. Some of the better locations are around the outflows. You cannot go wrong by getting to any beach as the tide ebbs and keeping the Sun over your shoulder and your head down. Teresa From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sun Mar 23 17:15:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Frederick Olmstead) Date: Sun Mar 23 17:15:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Jade Beach References: <2b.3bd75c5a.2bae6c8a@aol.com> Message-ID: <3E7E5C30.65F8@rcn.com> Hi Jade Beach Below Carmel (Carmel-by-the-Sea - where I was born...) Near Big Sur Have a snack at Nepenthe - Love the 'place' GeorgiaO __..--..__..--..__ NeophyteSG@aol.com wrote: > > I'm taking my wife to San Diego for her graduation in June (Vet Tech) and > thought I vaguely remembered someone talking about a beach there ... Jade > Beach? Any takers? > > Warm Regards > Shawn > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sun Mar 23 20:07:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Ithril) Date: Sun Mar 23 20:07:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Himalaya mine Message-ID: <002101c2f0bf$3827fe00$75e494ce@vallinor> I'm interested in any information I can get about the Himalaya mine mentioned in this article: http://lists.drizzle.com/pipermail/rockhounds/2002-May/000144.html Please let me know if there is any available information. thank you Bill Timko --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 3/17/2003 From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sun Mar 23 20:22:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Dave Guin) Date: Sun Mar 23 20:22:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Himalaya mine References: <002101c2f0bf$3827fe00$75e494ce@vallinor> Message-ID: <3E7E87D8.7070203@earthlink.net> Ithril wrote: >I'm interested in any information I can get about the Himalaya mine >mentioned in this article: > >http://lists.drizzle.com/pipermail/rockhounds/2002-May/000144.html > >Please let me know if there is any available information. > >thank you >Bill Timko > I got 199 hits on google by searching "himalaya mine" +"mesa grande". You will have to wade through the retail sites, but there is plenty of info available. If you have more questions after reading, you can email me. I will help if I can. Peace, dave From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sun Mar 23 20:59:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kreigh Tomaszewski) Date: Sun Mar 23 20:59:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Himalaya mine References: <002101c2f0bf$3827fe00$75e494ce@vallinor> Message-ID: <3E7E9085.6E1F@Tomaszewski.net> Go to http://www.mindat.org and do a location search on "Himalaya Mine". You will get a partial mineral list (only lists 20 of the minerals found) and other details. You need to be in good physical shape as you will spend much of your time in and out (with a full backpack) of the mine (1/2 mile each way) on your hands and feet climbing 45 degree ladders; second-hand info -- I have not collected there. I have purchased five pound unprocessed (better) mine-run bags of 'mud' from Ed Quo in the past and have been pleased with the results. Great fun for the winter months when collecting in my location is not readily possible (or safe). Ed usually lets this list know when he has material available that he and his mining partner have brought out from the Himalaya. BTW, a search on Google will give you lots more information, but you will have to sift thru some junk. Kreigh Ithril wrote: > > I'm interested in any information I can get about the Himalaya mine > mentioned in this article: > > http://lists.drizzle.com/pipermail/rockhounds/2002-May/000144.html > > Please let me know if there is any available information. > > thank you > Bill Timko From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 24 04:46:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Dennis Buffenmyer) Date: Mon Mar 24 04:46:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Himalaya mine References: <002101c2f0bf$3827fe00$75e494ce@vallinor> <3E7E9085.6E1F@Tomaszewski.net> Message-ID: <3E7EFD65.1000306@ptd.net> Does Ed Quo have a web site or e-mail address that I also might make purchase of this mine run material?? Kreigh Tomaszewski wrote: >Go to http://www.mindat.org and do a location search on "Himalaya Mine". >You will get a partial mineral list (only lists 20 of the minerals >found) and other details. > >You need to be in good physical shape as you will spend much of your >time in and out (with a full backpack) of the mine (1/2 mile each way) >on your hands and feet climbing 45 degree ladders; second-hand info -- I >have not collected there. > >I have purchased five pound unprocessed (better) mine-run bags of 'mud' >from Ed Quo in the past and have been pleased with the results. Great >fun for the winter months when collecting in my location is not readily >possible (or safe). Ed usually lets this list know when he has material >available that he and his mining partner have brought out from the >Himalaya. > >BTW, a search on Google will give you lots more information, but you >will have to sift thru some junk. > >Kreigh > > > > >Ithril wrote: > > >>I'm interested in any information I can get about the Himalaya mine >>mentioned in this article: >> >>http://lists.drizzle.com/pipermail/rockhounds/2002-May/000144.html >> >>Please let me know if there is any available information. >> >>thank you >>Bill Timko >> >> >_______________________________________________ >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >Subscription Services: >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 24 05:08:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kenneth Quinn) Date: Mon Mar 24 05:08:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Himalaya mine References: <002101c2f0bf$3827fe00$75e494ce@vallinor> <3E7E9085.6E1F@Tomaszewski.net> <3E7EFD65.1000306@ptd.net> Message-ID: > Does Ed Quo have a web site or e-mail address that I also might make > purchase of this mine run material?? Try edq882@socal.rr.com Kenneth Quinn From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 24 05:12:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Anita Westlake) Date: Mon Mar 24 05:12:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Agate website References: <102.276f6cc0.2b8b7b7f@aol.com> Message-ID: <3E7F0400.000001.00980@anitaw.library.emory.edu> Congats to our own Roger Pabian who's website is featured this morning on the "About Geology" website with Andrew Alden at:=0D http://geology.about com/library/bl/images/blagate.htm =0D under the link "Agate Resources". Neve having met an agate I didn't like,= I encourage you to visit this site.=0D =0D Anita=0D =0D =0D =2E=20 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/related multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html image/gif image/jpeg --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 24 05:37:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Tim Fisher) Date: Mon Mar 24 05:37:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Himalaya mine In-Reply-To: <3E7E9085.6E1F@Tomaszewski.net> References: <002101c2f0bf$3827fe00$75e494ce@vallinor> Message-ID: <5.2.0.5.2.20030324053408.015a6588@mail.spiritone.com> Kreigh, I have never been there either, but I plan to go in a few weeks, and your description sounds suspiciously like Bob Jackson's Spruce Claim in King Co. WA. AFAIK the Himalaya is easy to access except for the last 1/2 mile which requires 4WD... At 11:59 PM 3/23/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Go to http://www.mindat.org and do a location search on "Himalaya Mine". >You will get a partial mineral list (only lists 20 of the minerals >found) and other details. > >You need to be in good physical shape as you will spend much of your >time in and out (with a full backpack) of the mine (1/2 mile each way) >on your hands and feet climbing 45 degree ladders; second-hand info -- I >have not collected there. > >I have purchased five pound unprocessed (better) mine-run bags of 'mud' >from Ed Quo in the past and have been pleased with the results. Great >fun for the winter months when collecting in my location is not readily >possible (or safe). Ed usually lets this list know when he has material >available that he and his mining partner have brought out from the >Himalaya. > >BTW, a search on Google will give you lots more information, but you >will have to sift thru some junk. > >Kreigh > > > > >Ithril wrote: > > > > I'm interested in any information I can get about the Himalaya mine > > mentioned in this article: > > > > http://lists.drizzle.com/pipermail/rockhounds/2002-May/000144.html > > > > Please let me know if there is any available information. > > > > thank you > > Bill Timko >_______________________________________________ >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >Subscription Services: >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds Tim Fisher Ore-ROCK-On! mailto:tim@OreRockOn.com Web Site: http://OreRockOn.com From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 24 08:52:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Dri) Date: Mon Mar 24 08:52:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Himalaya mine References: <002101c2f0bf$3827fe00$75e494ce@vallinor> <5.2.0.5.2.20030324053408.015a6588@mail.spiritone.com> Message-ID: <004901c2f225$c7852a20$6801a8c0@dslverizon.net> Tim: Do you have the map coordinates for the location in King County. I live in Southern Snohomish County. This would in our locale and be a great jaunt for my roommie and I. Dri-Anna (Two Spirit) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Fisher" To: Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 05:35 Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Himalaya mine > Kreigh, I have never been there either, but I plan to go in a few weeks, > and your description sounds suspiciously like Bob Jackson's Spruce Claim in > King Co. WA. AFAIK the Himalaya is easy to access except for the last 1/2 > mile which requires 4WD... > >_______________________________________________ > >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > >Subscription Services: > >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > Tim Fisher > Ore-ROCK-On! > mailto:tim@OreRockOn.com > Web Site: http://OreRockOn.com > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 24 10:37:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Italian Minerals) Date: Mon Mar 24 10:37:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] updated pages Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20030324192629.007b9980@popmail.libero.it> Hi there, few lines to inform you that after the Bologna show (Italy), new specimens have been added on ItalianMinerals.com ! You will find very attractive gypsum giant crystals (2-8 cm!) on matrix, amethyst, analcime, light blu barite (from Romania), wulfenites, topaz, galenas, datolites ! For these specimens goto: http://www.italianminerals.com/whatsnew-7.html or visit the whole pages of the new material of these last month: http://www.italianminerals.com/whatsnew.html There are also fluorites: http://www.italianminerals.com/ITALY/fluorite.html Phosgenites and anglesites: http://www.italianminerals.com/VEEVAERT-prtnship/phosgenite.html millerite: http://www.italianminerals.com/ITALY/millerite-1.html golden barite: http://www.italianminerals.com/ITALY/Barite-MS.htm fluorite from Elmwood mine, USA: http://www.italianminerals.com/USA/Fluorite-1.html There are also a lot to see on the other pages dedicated to the various continents and also to Italy ! Visit us at: http://www.italianminerals.com Regards, Alessandro (ItalianMinerals.com) ===================== Visit us at: http://www.ItalianMinerals.com for quality minerals !! Check our auctions on Ebay at: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=itali anminerals ===================== From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 24 12:12:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (William S. Cordua) Date: Mon Mar 24 12:12:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Katangaite? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20030324192629.007b9980@popmail.libero.it> Message-ID: Hi all, Last week-end I was at a local mall doing a rock and mineral I.D. session for the public. One lady brought in a box of small African minerals specimens that, of course, had gone adrift from their labels in the box. I could get most them identified, but she had one label that said "katangaite" to which I could link no corresponding sample. I also have been unable to find this listed in Fleisher or new Dana or Encyclopedia of Minerals. I'm assuming that this is either a discrdited name or a local varietal one. Any one out there have some insight as to what "katangaite" refers to? Thanks! - Bill Cordua Dr. William S. Cordua Professor of Geology/Mineralogy University of Wisconsin - River Falls 410 South Third Street River Falls, WI 54022 715-425-3139 william.s.cordua@uwrf.edu "Speak to the Earth and it shall teach thee" - Job 12:8 From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 24 12:33:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (herwig pelckmans) Date: Mon Mar 24 12:33:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Katangaite? References: Message-ID: <010701c2f243$5e680080$bced76d5@pandora.be> Dear Dr Bill, Even though this variety is named after Katanga (the "copper province" of former Zaire), its varietal name is katangite. Katangite was originally described by Henri Buttgenbach, a famous Belgian mineralogist, in 1921. Later it was shown to be a cryptocrystalline variety of planchéite (OOSTERWYCK-GASTUCHE, 1968). Full references available if necessary. HTH, Sincerely, Herwig Herwig Pelckmans Worldwide Mineral Collector Cardijnstraat 12 B-3530 Helchteren Belgium Europe http://www.xlizd.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "William S. Cordua" To: Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:11 PM Subject: [Rockhounds] Katangaite? > Hi all, > Last week-end I was at a local mall doing a rock and mineral I.D. > session for the public. One lady brought in a box of small African minerals > specimens that, of course, had gone adrift from their labels in the box. I > could get most them identified, but she had one label that said > "katangaite" to which I could link no corresponding sample. I also have > been unable to find this listed in Fleisher or new Dana or Encyclopedia of > Minerals. I'm assuming that this is either a discrdited name or a local > varietal one. Any one out there have some insight as to what "katangaite" > refers to? > Thanks! - Bill Cordua > > Dr. William S. Cordua > Professor of Geology/Mineralogy > University of Wisconsin - River Falls > 410 South Third Street > River Falls, WI 54022 > 715-425-3139 > william.s.cordua@uwrf.edu > "Speak to the Earth and it shall teach thee" - Job 12:8 > > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 24 12:39:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Rik Dillen) Date: Mon Mar 24 12:39:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Katangaite? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Bill et al., Katangite (not katangaite) is a varietal name for plancheite. H. Buttgenbach mentions in his "Les mineraux de Belgique et du Congo Belge" (1947) on pp. 397-398 : "J'ai donne ce nom a un silicate de cuivre tres frequent dans les gisements cupriferes du Katanga" (I gave this name to a copper silicate that occurs frequently in the copper district of Katanga). M.-C. Van Oosterwyck-Gastuche wrote a comprehensive article on this problem in the Belgian magazine Annales de la Societe Geologique de Belgique, 91, 401-422 (1968) "Sur la nomenclature de certains silicates de cuivre du Katanga - Le probleme plancheite - shattuckite - bisbeeite - katangite" (On the nomenclature of certain copper silicates from Katanga - the problem planchite-shattuckite-bisbeeite-katangite". In this article he described a number of copper silicate aggregates in detail. I copy the abstract (in English !) : New results on copper silicates prove the existence of two families : the first - shattuckite - comprises minerals with gamma 1.8 and main X-ray lines 9.98 (7), 4.97 (8), 4.44 (10), 3.46 (7) AND 3.30 (9) Angstrom. The second - plancheite - includes minerals with gamma 1.7 and lines 10.10, 6.81, 4.81, 3.91 and 3.30 Angstrom ; variations in the CuO/SiO2 ratio from 1.25 to 0.8 were observed. The plancheite formula may be written as a cupric amphibole Cu7Si8O22(OH)2. Katangite is a microcrystalline variety of plancheite. More recent analytical work lead to the formula Cu8Si8O22(OH)4.H2O, which is not that far from what Van Oosterwyck found with his quite primitive means (see American Mineralogist 62, 491-502 (1977)). If you are interested I can provide you with a copy of the article and/or the 2 pages from Buttgenbach's book. With my best regards, Rik DILLEN Doornstraat 15 B-9170 Sint-Gillis-Waas Belgium Tel. + 32 3 7706007 E-mail rik.dillen@skynet.be Homepage : http://users.skynet.be/rik.dillen >>> Belgian minerals (ardennite, vantasselite, ferristrunzite and more) >>> An own find on a Korean (and now again on a Guinean) postage stamp ! >>> Exchange list Mineral collector's page http://www.minerant.org/ >>> The Dana errata page, the Virtual Quarry and much more ! MINERANT 2003 - Minerals and fossils show ATTENTION ! NEW LOCATION ! "Stuurboord - hangar 26-27", Rijnkaai 96, B-2000 Antwerpen 10 ' north of "Het Steen", Schelde - see http://www.stuurboord.com/gif/map.gif Large parking lot ! http://www.minerant.org/MKA/minerantnl.html -----Original Message----- From: rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com [mailto:rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com]On Behalf Of William S. Cordua Sent: 24 March, 2003 9:11 PM To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Subject: [Rockhounds] Katangaite? Hi all, Last week-end I was at a local mall doing a rock and mineral I.D. session for the public. One lady brought in a box of small African minerals specimens that, of course, had gone adrift from their labels in the box. I could get most them identified, but she had one label that said "katangaite" to which I could link no corresponding sample. I also have been unable to find this listed in Fleisher or new Dana or Encyclopedia of Minerals. I'm assuming that this is either a discrdited name or a local varietal one. Any one out there have some insight as to what "katangaite" refers to? Thanks! - Bill Cordua Dr. William S. Cordua Professor of Geology/Mineralogy University of Wisconsin - River Falls 410 South Third Street River Falls, WI 54022 715-425-3139 william.s.cordua@uwrf.edu "Speak to the Earth and it shall teach thee" - Job 12:8 _______________________________________________ Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds Subscription Services: http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 24 12:44:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Rik Dillen) Date: Mon Mar 24 12:44:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Katangaite? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just to avoid any misunderstanding... no, Herwig and I are no twin brothers or so... :>)) Best regards, Rik -----Original Message----- From: rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com [mailto:rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com]On Behalf Of William S. Cordua Sent: 24 March, 2003 9:11 PM To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Subject: [Rockhounds] Katangaite? Hi all, Last week-end I was at a local mall doing a rock and mineral I.D. session for the public. One lady brought in a box of small African minerals specimens that, of course, had gone adrift from their labels in the box. I could get most them identified, but she had one label that said "katangaite" to which I could link no corresponding sample. I also have been unable to find this listed in Fleisher or new Dana or Encyclopedia of Minerals. I'm assuming that this is either a discrdited name or a local varietal one. Any one out there have some insight as to what "katangaite" refers to? Thanks! - Bill Cordua Dr. William S. Cordua Professor of Geology/Mineralogy University of Wisconsin - River Falls 410 South Third Street River Falls, WI 54022 715-425-3139 william.s.cordua@uwrf.edu "Speak to the Earth and it shall teach thee" - Job 12:8 _______________________________________________ Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds Subscription Services: http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 24 15:09:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (William S. Cordua) Date: Mon Mar 24 15:09:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Katangite? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: THANKS for all the quick authoritative responses to my request on katangite. This group ROCKS. - Bill Cordua Dr. William S. Cordua Professor of Geology/Mineralogy University of Wisconsin - River Falls 410 South Third Street River Falls, WI 54022 715-425-3139 william.s.cordua@uwrf.edu "Speak to the Earth and it shall teach thee" - Job 12:8 From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 24 15:38:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kreigh Tomaszewski) Date: Mon Mar 24 15:38:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Katangaite? References: Message-ID: <3E7F96BA.1873@Tomaszewski.net> Probably a misspelling of katangite. William S. Cordua wrote: > > Hi all, > Last week-end I was at a local mall doing a rock and mineral I.D. > session for the public. One lady brought in a box of small African minerals > specimens that, of course, had gone adrift from their labels in the box. I > could get most them identified, but she had one label that said > "katangaite" to which I could link no corresponding sample. I also have > been unable to find this listed in Fleisher or new Dana or Encyclopedia of > Minerals. I'm assuming that this is either a discrdited name or a local > varietal one. Any one out there have some insight as to what "katangaite" > refers to? > Thanks! - Bill Cordua > > Dr. William S. Cordua > Professor of Geology/Mineralogy > University of Wisconsin - River Falls > 410 South Third Street > River Falls, WI 54022 > 715-425-3139 > william.s.cordua@uwrf.edu > "Speak to the Earth and it shall teach thee" - Job 12:8 > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 24 17:32:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Stephen Douglas) Date: Mon Mar 24 17:32:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Roadside Geology of New York/Pennsylvania Message-ID: <001e01c2f26d$ff4eb320$2702a8c0@WorkGroup> Has anyone picked up either the Roadside Geology of New York or the = Roadside Geology of Pennsylvania by Bradford B. Van Diver (sorry, I = don't know the publishing date)? I was wondering, to what audience the = books are directed to. Are they for amateur collectors of = fossils/minerals, or are they geared towards students/professionals.=20 -- Stephen Douglas Editor, Pink Dolomite Saddle Newsletter Director, Niagara Peninsula Geological Society http://www.iaw.com/~jime/ stephendouglas@sympatico.ca --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 24 17:45:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kenneth Quinn) Date: Mon Mar 24 17:45:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Roadside Geology of New York/Pennsylvania References: <001e01c2f26d$ff4eb320$2702a8c0@WorkGroup> Message-ID: Has anyone picked up either the Roadside Geology of New York or the Roadside Geology of Pennsylvania by Bradford B. Van Diver (sorry, I don't know the publishing date)? I was wondering, to what audience the books are directed to. Are they for amateur collectors of fossils/minerals, or are they geared towards students/professionals. ************************************************************************* They are not aimed at the rockhound in the sense that they do not give directions to collecting localities. They instead comment on the formations and geological features to be seen along the roads. Anyone with a high school education and an interest in geology can find them interesting. They are not aimed at students or professionals, though the can get good info from the books also, if not familiar with the area! Kenneth Quinn From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 24 17:59:14 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Tim Fisher) Date: Mon Mar 24 17:59:14 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Himalaya mine In-Reply-To: <004901c2f225$c7852a20$6801a8c0@dslverizon.net> References: <002101c2f0bf$3827fe00$75e494ce@vallinor> <5.2.0.5.2.20030324053408.015a6588@mail.spiritone.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.5.2.20030324175301.015c0868@mail.spiritone.com> I do but you need to contact Bob at geologyadventures.com for permission and he only leads about 6 trips a year to the claim... At 08:52 AM 3/24/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Tim: >Do you have the map coordinates for the location in King County. I live in >Southern Snohomish County. This would in our locale and be a great jaunt >for my roommie and I. >Dri-Anna (Two Spirit) >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tim Fisher" >To: >Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 05:35 >Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Himalaya mine > > > > Kreigh, I have never been there either, but I plan to go in a few weeks, > > and your description sounds suspiciously like Bob Jackson's Spruce Claim >in > > King Co. WA. AFAIK the Himalaya is easy to access except for the last 1/2 > > mile which requires 4WD... > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > > >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > > >Subscription Services: > > >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > > > Tim Fisher > > Ore-ROCK-On! > > mailto:tim@OreRockOn.com > > Web Site: http://OreRockOn.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > > Subscription Services: > > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > >_______________________________________________ >Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List >WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds >Subscription Services: >http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds Tim Fisher Ore-ROCK-On! mailto:tim@OreRockOn.com Web Site: http://OreRockOn.com From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Mar 25 03:45:02 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Van) Date: Tue Mar 25 03:45:02 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Katangaite? References: Message-ID: <003601c2f2c3$d0378840$c3ff4342@nathanqa8gl7gx> According to Gilbert Gauthier, a Belgian dealer living in France and who specializes in Congo minerals, katangaite is a variety of chrysocolla. Best Regards, Van ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Dillen" To: Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 3:36 PM Subject: RE: [Rockhounds] Katangaite? > Dear Bill et al., > > Katangite (not katangaite) is a varietal name for plancheite. > > H. Buttgenbach mentions in his "Les mineraux de Belgique et du Congo Belge" > (1947) on pp. 397-398 : "J'ai donne ce nom a un silicate de cuivre tres > frequent dans les gisements cupriferes du Katanga" (I gave this name to a > copper silicate that occurs frequently in the copper district of Katanga). > > M.-C. Van Oosterwyck-Gastuche wrote a comprehensive article on this problem > in the Belgian magazine Annales de la Societe Geologique de Belgique, 91, > 401-422 (1968) "Sur la nomenclature de certains silicates de cuivre du > Katanga - Le probleme plancheite - shattuckite - bisbeeite - katangite" (On > the nomenclature of certain copper silicates from Katanga - the problem > planchite-shattuckite-bisbeeite-katangite". > > In this article he described a number of copper silicate aggregates in > detail. > I copy the abstract (in English !) : > New results on copper silicates prove the existence of two families : the > first - shattuckite - comprises minerals with gamma 1.8 and main X-ray lines > 9.98 (7), 4.97 (8), 4.44 (10), 3.46 (7) AND 3.30 (9) Angstrom. > The second - plancheite - includes minerals with gamma 1.7 and lines 10.10, > 6.81, 4.81, 3.91 and 3.30 Angstrom ; variations in the CuO/SiO2 ratio from > 1.25 to 0.8 were observed. The plancheite formula may be written as a cupric > amphibole Cu7Si8O22(OH)2. > Katangite is a microcrystalline variety of plancheite. > > More recent analytical work lead to the formula Cu8Si8O22(OH)4.H2O, which is > not that far from what Van Oosterwyck found with his quite primitive means > (see American Mineralogist 62, 491-502 (1977)). > > If you are interested I can provide you with a copy of the article and/or > the 2 pages from Buttgenbach's book. > > With my best regards, > > Rik DILLEN > Doornstraat 15 > B-9170 Sint-Gillis-Waas > Belgium > > Tel. + 32 3 7706007 > E-mail rik.dillen@skynet.be > > Homepage : http://users.skynet.be/rik.dillen > > >>> Belgian minerals (ardennite, vantasselite, ferristrunzite and more) > >>> An own find on a Korean (and now again on a Guinean) postage stamp ! > >>> Exchange list > > Mineral collector's page http://www.minerant.org/ > >>> The Dana errata page, the Virtual Quarry and much more ! > > MINERANT 2003 - Minerals and fossils show > ATTENTION ! NEW LOCATION ! > "Stuurboord - hangar 26-27", Rijnkaai 96, B-2000 Antwerpen > 10 ' north of "Het Steen", Schelde - see > http://www.stuurboord.com/gif/map.gif > > Large parking lot ! > http://www.minerant.org/MKA/minerantnl.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com > [mailto:rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com]On Behalf Of William S. > Cordua > Sent: 24 March, 2003 9:11 PM > To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com > Subject: [Rockhounds] Katangaite? > > > Hi all, > Last week-end I was at a local mall doing a rock and mineral I.D. > session for the public. One lady brought in a box of small African minerals > specimens that, of course, had gone adrift from their labels in the box. I > could get most them identified, but she had one label that said > "katangaite" to which I could link no corresponding sample. I also have > been unable to find this listed in Fleisher or new Dana or Encyclopedia of > Minerals. I'm assuming that this is either a discrdited name or a local > varietal one. Any one out there have some insight as to what "katangaite" > refers to? > Thanks! - Bill Cordua > > Dr. William S. Cordua > Professor of Geology/Mineralogy > University of Wisconsin - River Falls > 410 South Third Street > River Falls, WI 54022 > 715-425-3139 > william.s.cordua@uwrf.edu > "Speak to the Earth and it shall teach thee" - Job 12:8 > > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Mar 25 04:04:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Chengi Kuo) Date: Tue Mar 25 04:04:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Margaret Malm in Sunset Magazine Message-ID: <3335032.1048593784920.JavaMail.nobody@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> If you're browsing through a bookstore, take a look at the March issue of Sunset Magazine (The Magazine of Western Living), p. 91. Margaret, nice little story. Jimmy From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Mar 25 05:07:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Axel Emmermann) Date: Tue Mar 25 05:07:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Katangaite? References: <003601c2f2c3$d0378840$c3ff4342@nathanqa8gl7gx> Message-ID: <006b01c2f2cf$b7e6bf20$e19c77d5@pandora.be> Ola compadres I didn't follow this thread from the start so this may already have been said: according to "Glossary of Mineral Synonyms" by Jeffrey de Fourestier (The Canadian Mineralogist, Special Publication 2, 1999, ISBN 0-921294-44-1): Katangite (NOT katangAite) is a variety of planchéite (NOT chrysocolla). katangaite, catangite, catangaite are not in the list. It has happened occasionally that one or two synonyms were not listed in this outstanding compilation but in each case those "synonyms" proved to be misspelled "versions" of obsolete or trivial names. So, I'm pretty sure the above is what you're looking for. Rock on Axel Emmermann Mineralogische Kring Antwerpen MINERANT 2003 - Mineralen en fossielen beurs Dit jaar NIEUWE LOCATIE! "Stuurboord - hangar 26-27", Rijnkaai 96, Antwerpen. Grote parking ! Waar: Scheldekaaien naast de ATV-studio's ter hoogte vd Londonstraat. Route: http://www.stuurboord.com/gif/map.gif http://www.minerant.org/MKA/minerantnl.html Werkgroepen Fluorescentie & Technische Realisaties Home : Lobbesplein 12 B-2640 Mortsel Belgium Tel: +32 (0)3 295.35.54 E-mail: axel.emmermann@pandora.be Visit our homepage: http://www.minerant.org/index.html Bezoek onze web-site: http://www.minerant.org/MKA/index.html My own web-site: http://users.pandora.be/axel.emmerman/home/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Van" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Katangaite? | According to Gilbert Gauthier, a Belgian dealer living in France and who | specializes in Congo minerals, katangaite is a variety of chrysocolla. | | Best Regards, Van | | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Rik Dillen" | To: | Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 3:36 PM | Subject: RE: [Rockhounds] Katangaite? | | | > Dear Bill et al., | > | > Katangite (not katangaite) is a varietal name for plancheite. | > | > H. Buttgenbach mentions in his "Les mineraux de Belgique et du Congo | Belge" | > (1947) on pp. 397-398 : "J'ai donne ce nom a un silicate de cuivre tres | > frequent dans les gisements cupriferes du Katanga" (I gave this name to a | > copper silicate that occurs frequently in the copper district of Katanga). | > | > M.-C. Van Oosterwyck-Gastuche wrote a comprehensive article on this | problem | > in the Belgian magazine Annales de la Societe Geologique de Belgique, 91, | > 401-422 (1968) "Sur la nomenclature de certains silicates de cuivre du | > Katanga - Le probleme plancheite - shattuckite - bisbeeite - katangite" | (On | > the nomenclature of certain copper silicates from Katanga - the problem | > planchite-shattuckite-bisbeeite-katangite". | > | > In this article he described a number of copper silicate aggregates in | > detail. | > I copy the abstract (in English !) : | > New results on copper silicates prove the existence of two families : the | > first - shattuckite - comprises minerals with gamma 1.8 and main X-ray | lines | > 9.98 (7), 4.97 (8), 4.44 (10), 3.46 (7) AND 3.30 (9) Angstrom. | > The second - plancheite - includes minerals with gamma 1.7 and lines | 10.10, | > 6.81, 4.81, 3.91 and 3.30 Angstrom ; variations in the CuO/SiO2 ratio from | > 1.25 to 0.8 were observed. The plancheite formula may be written as a | cupric | > amphibole Cu7Si8O22(OH)2. | > Katangite is a microcrystalline variety of plancheite. | > | > More recent analytical work lead to the formula Cu8Si8O22(OH)4.H2O, which | is | > not that far from what Van Oosterwyck found with his quite primitive means | > (see American Mineralogist 62, 491-502 (1977)). | > | > If you are interested I can provide you with a copy of the article and/or | > the 2 pages from Buttgenbach's book. | > | > With my best regards, | > | > Rik DILLEN | > Doornstraat 15 | > B-9170 Sint-Gillis-Waas | > Belgium | > | > Tel. + 32 3 7706007 | > E-mail rik.dillen@skynet.be | > | > Homepage : http://users.skynet.be/rik.dillen | > | > >>> Belgian minerals (ardennite, vantasselite, ferristrunzite and more) | > >>> An own find on a Korean (and now again on a Guinean) postage stamp ! | > >>> Exchange list | > | > Mineral collector's page http://www.minerant.org/ | | > >>> The Dana errata page, the Virtual Quarry and much more ! | > | > MINERANT 2003 - Minerals and fossils show | > ATTENTION ! NEW LOCATION ! | > "Stuurboord - hangar 26-27", Rijnkaai 96, B-2000 Antwerpen | > 10 ' north of "Het Steen", Schelde - see | > http://www.stuurboord.com/gif/map.gif | > | > Large parking lot ! | > http://www.minerant.org/MKA/minerantnl.html | > | > | > | > | > -----Original Message----- | > From: rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com | > [mailto:rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com]On Behalf Of William S. | > Cordua | > Sent: 24 March, 2003 9:11 PM | > To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com | > Subject: [Rockhounds] Katangaite? | > | > | > Hi all, | > Last week-end I was at a local mall doing a rock and mineral I.D. | > session for the public. One lady brought in a box of small African | minerals | > specimens that, of course, had gone adrift from their labels in the box. I | > could get most them identified, but she had one label that said | > "katangaite" to which I could link no corresponding sample. I also have | > been unable to find this listed in Fleisher or new Dana or Encyclopedia of | > Minerals. I'm assuming that this is either a discrdited name or a local | > varietal one. Any one out there have some insight as to what "katangaite" | > refers to? | > Thanks! - Bill Cordua | > | > Dr. William S. Cordua | > Professor of Geology/Mineralogy | > University of Wisconsin - River Falls | > 410 South Third Street | > River Falls, WI 54022 | > 715-425-3139 | > william.s.cordua@uwrf.edu | > "Speak to the Earth and it shall teach thee" - Job 12:8 | > | > | > _______________________________________________ | > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List | > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds | > Subscription Services: | > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds | > | > | > _______________________________________________ | > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List | > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds | > Subscription Services: | > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds | > | | | _______________________________________________ | Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List | WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds | Subscription Services: | http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds | From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Mar 25 06:45:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Gary Brown) Date: Tue Mar 25 06:45:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Himalaya mine In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.5.2.20030324175301.015c0868@mail.spiritone.com> Message-ID: If you do get a chance to go on one of Bob's jaunts... DO! That trip up to the claim was one of the most enjoyable collecting trips I've ever had. Heck, the view from the top was worth the price of admission even if I hadn't collected anything. But, let me tell you, that climb up seemed to be accomplished a lot more readily by the teenagers on the trip than by this 50-year old guy. It is indeed a haul up there! Think "Climbing up the Empire State Building" and you have a good idea. Even MORE fun is climbing DOWN with a pack full of specimens! GcB > -----Original Message----- > From: rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com > [mailto:rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com]On Behalf Of Tim Fisher > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 7:54 PM > To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com > Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Himalaya mine > > > I do but you need to contact Bob at geologyadventures.com for permission > and he only leads about 6 trips a year to the claim... > > At 08:52 AM 3/24/2003 -0800, you wrote: > >Tim: > >Do you have the map coordinates for the location in King County. > I live in > >Southern Snohomish County. This would in our locale and be a great jaunt > >for my roommie and I. > >Dri-Anna (Two Spirit) > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Tim Fisher" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 05:35 > >Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Himalaya mine > > > > > > > Kreigh, I have never been there either, but I plan to go in a > few weeks, > > > and your description sounds suspiciously like Bob Jackson's > Spruce Claim > >in > > > King Co. WA. AFAIK the Himalaya is easy to access except for > the last 1/2 > > > mile which requires 4WD... > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Mar 25 09:01:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Aaron Fox) Date: Tue Mar 25 09:01:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Himalaya mine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I met Bob once, heading up the road to Hansen Creek, up the middle fork of the Snoqualmie River, in eastern King County, Washington. He was just coming back down from leading a troop of Boy Scouts to an outcrop for euhedral pyrite cubes. One of the nicest guys I've ever met; friendly, knowledgable, polite, and funny. Pointed out the outcrop to us, and recomended avoid another because of the biting flies. I haven't gone on one of his Spruce trips yet, but I'd like to. I second Gary's recommendation (as if it needed it!) A. > If you do get a chance to go on one of Bob's jaunts... DO! That trip up to > the claim was one of the most enjoyable collecting trips I've ever had. > Heck, the view from the top was worth the price of admission even if I > hadn't collected anything. But, let me tell you, that climb up seemed to be > accomplished a lot more readily by the teenagers on the trip than by this > 50-year old guy. It is indeed a haul up there! Think "Climbing up the > Empire State Building" and you have a good idea. Even MORE fun is climbing > DOWN with a pack full of specimens! > > GcB > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com > > [mailto:rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com]On Behalf Of Tim Fisher > > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 7:54 PM > > To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com > > Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Himalaya mine > > > > > > I do but you need to contact Bob at geologyadventures.com for permission > > and he only leads about 6 trips a year to the claim... > > > > At 08:52 AM 3/24/2003 -0800, you wrote: > > >Tim: > > >Do you have the map coordinates for the location in King County. > > I live in > > >Southern Snohomish County. This would in our locale and be a great jaunt > > >for my roommie and I. > > >Dri-Anna (Two Spirit) > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Tim Fisher" > > >To: > > >Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 05:35 > > >Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Himalaya mine > > > > > > > > > > Kreigh, I have never been there either, but I plan to go in a > > few weeks, > > > > and your description sounds suspiciously like Bob Jackson's > > Spruce Claim > > >in > > > > King Co. WA. AFAIK the Himalaya is easy to access except for > > the last 1/2 > > > > mile which requires 4WD... > > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > -- afox at drizzle dot com || http://www.drizzle.com/~afox "You can fix anything with a big enough hammer and a lot of duct tape" From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Mar 25 11:02:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Margaret Malm) Date: Tue Mar 25 11:02:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Roadside Geology of New York/Pennsylvania References: <001e01c2f26d$ff4eb320$2702a8c0@WorkGroup> Message-ID: <003801c2f300$654eae40$101dbed8@powertech.net> >Has anyone picked up either the Roadside Geology of New York or the Roadside >Geology of Pennsylvania by Bradford B. Van Diver (sorry, I don't know the >publishing date)? I was wondering, to what audience the books are directed to. >Are they for amateur collectors of fossils/minerals, or are they geared towards >students/professionals. I don't know just what the aim of this series is supposed to be ; it seems to me to be for the amateur who is driving through and wonders wot that iz? Also I have a little problem with the accuracy of the Utah one, at least -- for the part in the area where I live and know a bit about it, I've found several inaccuracies. Not really important ones, but -- margaret-- Stephen Douglas Editor, Pink Dolomite Saddle Newsletter Director, Niagara Peninsula Geological Society http://www.iaw.com/~jime/ stephendouglas@sympatico.ca --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- _______________________________________________ Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds Subscription Services: http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Tue Mar 25 11:28:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Margaret Malm) Date: Tue Mar 25 11:28:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Margaret Malm in Sunset Magazine References: <3335032.1048593784920.JavaMail.nobody@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <00b801c2f303$ffef00a0$101dbed8@powertech.net> Thanks, Jimmy! Margaret kadok@infowest.com, in Utah's colorful Dixie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chengi Kuo" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:00 AM Subject: [Rockhounds] Margaret Malm in Sunset Magazine > If you're browsing through a bookstore, take a look at the March issue of Sunset Magazine (The Magazine of Western Living), p. 91. > > Margaret, nice little story. > > Jimmy > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Thu Mar 27 19:06:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kreigh Tomaszewski) Date: Thu Mar 27 19:06:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Rocks In His Head Message-ID: <3E83BBEA.756C@Tomaszewski.net> My neighbor brought over a delightful childrens book today, "Rocks In His Head" by Carol Otis Hurst. It is a true story about the director of the Springfield Science Museum's Director who turned his rockhounding hobby into an occupation. ISBN 0-06-029403-5. BTW, the Dr. Seuss National Memorial is outside the Springfield Science Museum. From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 28 17:02:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Tommy Armstrong) Date: Fri Mar 28 17:02:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Rocks In His Head In-Reply-To: <3E83BBEA.756C@Tomaszewski.net> Message-ID: Are we talking Springfield, MA???? Tommy Armstrong N 35* 23' 52'' W 78* 49' 9'' > -----Original Message----- > From: rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com > [mailto:rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com]On Behalf Of Kreigh > Tomaszewski > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:16 PM > To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com > Subject: [Rockhounds] Rocks In His Head > > > My neighbor brought over a delightful childrens book today, "Rocks In > His Head" by Carol Otis Hurst. It is a true story about the director of > the Springfield Science Museum's Director who turned his rockhounding > hobby into an occupation. ISBN 0-06-029403-5. > > BTW, the Dr. Seuss National Memorial is outside the Springfield Science > Museum. > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 28 18:18:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Frederick Olmstead) Date: Fri Mar 28 18:18:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Rocks In His Head References: Message-ID: <3E8502AE.19EE@rcn.com> GLO WROTE: IS THAT SPRINGFIELD, VIRGINIA SPRINGFIELD, ILLINOIS SPRINGFIELD, MISSOURI __..--..__..--..__ Tommy Armstrong wrote: > > Are we talking Springfield, MA???? > Tommy Armstrong > N 35* 23' 52'' W 78* 49' 9'' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com > > [mailto:rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com]On Behalf Of Kreigh > > Tomaszewski > > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:16 PM > > To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com > > Subject: [Rockhounds] Rocks In His Head > > > > > > My neighbor brought over a delightful childrens book today, "Rocks In > > His Head" by Carol Otis Hurst. It is a true story about the director of > > the Springfield Science Museum's Director who turned his rockhounding > > hobby into an occupation. ISBN 0-06-029403-5. > > > > BTW, the Dr. Seuss National Memorial is outside the Springfield Science > > Museum. > > _______________________________________________ > > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > > Subscription Services: > > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds > _______________________________________________ > Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List > WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds > Subscription Services: > http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 28 19:02:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Peter J. Modreski) Date: Fri Mar 28 19:02:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Roadside Geology of New York/Pennsylvania References: <001e01c2f26d$ff4eb320$2702a8c0@WorkGroup> Message-ID: <007b01c2f59f$a5bc9540$1602560c@oemcomputer> Stephen & list, I've been meaning to type a reply to your question about Roadside Geology books. I'm not personally familiar with the New York or Pennsylvania guides, but I've looked at many others in this series. Most of them are well written. They are not intended as collecting guides, but they are descriptions of the geology of the state, based on what one sees along most of the major highways through the state. They are written either for the amateur/lay person with an interest in geology, or for any other student or enthusiast of geology. They do describe a lot of the roadcuts seen in the state, what kind of rocks are present, their geologic age and geologic history, how they fit into the "big picture" of plate tectonics and the history of former mountain ranges, etc., in the region. So, these books fill a niche that is different than the rock/mineral/fossil collecting guides; they're for people who are interested in and curious about, the geology of their state. Does that help? Sincerely, Pete Modreski, Denver CO ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Douglas To: ; Ontario Rocks Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 6:29 PM Subject: [Rockhounds] Roadside Geology of New York/Pennsylvania Has anyone picked up either the Roadside Geology of New York or the Roadside Geology of Pennsylvania by Bradford B. Van Diver (sorry, I don't know the publishing date)? I was wondering, to what audience the books are directed to. Are they for amateur collectors of fossils/minerals, or are they geared towards students/professionals. -- Stephen Douglas Editor, Pink Dolomite Saddle Newsletter Director, Niagara Peninsula Geological Society http://www.iaw.com/~jime/ stephendouglas@sympatico.ca --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- _______________________________________________ Rockhounds@drizzle Mailing List WWW: http://www.drizzle.com/~afox/rockhounds Subscription Services: http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 28 19:54:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Fri Mar 28 19:54:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Roadside Geology of New York/Pennsylvania Message-ID: <15a.1d9a580c.2bb67297@aol.com> In a message dated 3/28/03 7:16:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, pjmodreski@worldnet.att.net writes: > they're for people who are interested in and curious > about, the geology of their state. > They do have some value for rockhounds, especiallky if you can find them cheaper than list price. I've used the Oregon Roadside Geology book to locate things that are not listed in the field guides. Peridot is listed between Klamath Falls and Ashland on Highway 140. I think knowing where to look before it gets listed in Gem Trails might be more productive than looking where the books say to look. They are primarily about road cuts but there are good things in road cuts. Grant --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 28 20:02:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Peter J. Modreski) Date: Fri Mar 28 20:02:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Rocks In His Head References: <3E83BBEA.756C@Tomaszewski.net> Message-ID: <00ac01c2f5a7$fde6cc60$1602560c@oemcomputer> "...a true story about the director of the Springfield Science Museum's Director who turned his rockhounding hobby into an occupation. ISBN 0-06-029403-5. BTW, the Dr. Seuss National Memorial is outside the Springfield Science Museum. ..." I always get a kick out of these "but what state is that in" items--I remember a thread (or several) about this several years ago, on this email group or another. And just for amusement (and to find out the answer) I searched for the Springfield Science Museum's website, found it easily, but I'm pleased to report that even on the museum's home page, it never says what state "Springfield" is in. (It does also mention Dr. Seuss on that page, so I know I've got the right museum.) But, I admit, it does let on what the probable answer is, because one of the links on the page is to the University of Massachusetts' Connecticut River website. But it still doesn't make it too easy for the reader, because "Connecticut" is mentioned twice on the home page, "Connecticut River" and "Connecticut Valley", vs. "Massachusetts" only once. So it still requires a little insight & geographic knowledge on the part of the reader to figure this out correctly. But "the Northeast" is also mentioned once, and Illinois (or Virginia, or Missouri) never, so at least it puts you in the right part of the country, if still on the border between two states. That's all, cheers, Pete From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Fri Mar 28 20:13:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Kreigh Tomaszewski) Date: Fri Mar 28 20:13:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Rocks In His Head References: Message-ID: <3E851D3D.2B2D@Tomaszewski.net> Yes. Tommy Armstrong wrote: > > Are we talking Springfield, MA???? > Tommy Armstrong > N 35* 23' 52'' W 78* 49' 9'' > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com > > [mailto:rockhounds-admin@lists.drizzle.com]On Behalf Of Kreigh > > Tomaszewski > > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:16 PM > > To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com > > Subject: [Rockhounds] Rocks In His Head > > > > > > My neighbor brought over a delightful childrens book today, "Rocks In > > His Head" by Carol Otis Hurst. It is a true story about the director of > > the Springfield Science Museum's Director who turned his rockhounding > > hobby into an occupation. ISBN 0-06-029403-5. > > > > BTW, the Dr. Seuss National Memorial is outside the Springfield Science > > Museum. From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Mar 29 05:00:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Sat Mar 29 05:00:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Rocks In His Head Message-ID: <1d1.625a98e.2bb6f2a9@aol.com> Being a New Englander, I will confirm (of the top of my rock filled head) that is Springfield, MA...I believe the Dr Suess memorial opened just last year. Not Virginia, Missouri, Illinois, or even Kentucky (rumored home of the Simpsons). Springfield does have an AWESOME Mineral show in August every year, I believe its the largest in the northeast. Next one is August 8-10th a bit of info at http://www.hammerron.com/minerals/minshows.htm cheers! -Ron In a message dated 3/28/2003 11:50:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, pjmodreski@worldnet.att.net writes: > "...a true story about the director of the Springfield Science Museum's > Director who turned his rockhounding > hobby into an occupation. ISBN 0-06-029403-5. BTW, the Dr. Seuss National > Memorial is outside the Springfield Science Museum. ..." > > > I always get a kick out of these "but what state is that in" items--I > remember a thread (or several) about this several years ago, on this email > group or another. > > And just for amusement (and to find out the answer) I searched for the > Springfield Science Museum's website, found it easily, but I'm pleased to > report that even on the museum's home page, it never says what state > "Springfield" is in. (It does also mention Dr. Seuss on that page, so I > know I've got the right museum.) But, I admit, it does let on what the > probable answer is, because one of the links on the page is to the > University of Massachusetts' Connecticut River website. But it still > doesn't make it too easy for the reader, because "Connecticut" is mentioned > twice on the home page, "Connecticut River" and "Connecticut Valley", vs. > "Massachusetts" only once. So it still requires a little insight & > geographic knowledge on the part of the reader to figure this out > correctly. > But "the Northeast" is also mentioned once, and Illinois (or Virginia, or > Missouri) never, so at least it puts you in the right part of the country, > if still on the border between two states. > > That's all, cheers, > Pete > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Mar 29 05:33:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Tommy Armstrong) Date: Sat Mar 29 05:33:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Rocks In His Head In-Reply-To: <1d1.625a98e.2bb6f2a9@aol.com> Message-ID: Thats why I asked as I was at that mineral show year before last and did not see the Dr. Seuss memeorial. Springfield is the home of the Basketball Hall of Fame and which is well worth going to see while at the mineral show. I hope to make it this year and will definitely check out Dr. Seuss. Tommy Armstrong N 35* 23' 52'' W 78* 49' 9'' > Springfield does have an AWESOME Mineral show in August every > year, I believe its the largest in the northeast. Next one is > August 8-10th a > bit of info at http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Sat Mar 29 07:36:01 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Axel Emmermann) Date: Sat Mar 29 07:36:01 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Rocks In His Head References: Message-ID: <008901c2f609$32cc8d00$d89d77d5@pandora.be> | Springfield is the home of the Basketball Hall | of Fame and Homer and Marge and Lisa and Bart and Maggie? Axel From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 31 14:13:07 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Henry Barwood) Date: Mon Mar 31 14:13:07 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Bob's Rock Shop? Message-ID: I have been unable to access Rock Talk for several weeks. Does anyone know what is happening with Bob's Rock Shop? Henry Barwood From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 31 14:26:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com) Date: Mon Mar 31 14:26:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Bob's Rock Shop? Message-ID: <11e.200487b6.2bba1a49@aol.com> In a message dated 3/31/03 2:14:21 PM Pacific Standard Time,=20 hbarwood@troyst.edu writes: > weeks. Does anyone know what is happening with Bob's Rock Shop? >=20 Bob's disappeared a few weeks ago. A lot of the regulars moved to WWW.McRocks.com=A0 See below. >From: "mykall99" =20 >Reply-To: RockNetRefuge@yahoogroups.com=20 >To: RockNetRefuge@yahoogroups.com=20 >Subject: [RockNetRefuge] NEW MESSAGE BOARD ANNOUNCEMENT=20 >Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:18:56 -0000=20 >=20 >Hi everybody,=20 >=20 >Thanks again Dean for setting up this board but I missed the old=20 >format at RockNet. So, I have just set up a NEW MESSAGE BOARD that=20 >follows the same format that Bob used on Rocknet. It isn't as slick=20 >as RockNet but I tested it and it works just fine. It was free so it=20 >came with a banner ad - just ignore it if you want.=20 >=20 >Please go to the new message board so that we can get back to talking=20 >like we used to:=20 >=20 >You can access the message board through my website at:=20 >=20 >http://www.mcrocks.com=20 >=20 >or you can go directly to it at:=20 >=20 >http://www.dream-tool.com/tools/messages.mv?index+mcrocksnet=20 >=20 >Please let me know if you have any questions. This is all new to me=20 >and I hope it works well for everyone.=20 >=20 >Mike Streeter=20 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com Mon Mar 31 14:28:00 2003 From: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com (Teresa Masters) Date: Mon Mar 31 14:28:00 2003 Subject: [Rockhounds] Bob's Rock Shop? References: Message-ID: <3E88C0D0.3C88F8F6@cox.net> About Bob Keller, He is still in Tucson, very annoyed by spam and has changed his e-mail address for that reason. I contacted Rob Kulakofsky recently for a way to reach Bob. Rob had a personal emergency and is out of town. He indicated that Bob does not currently have a phone number, and is not responding online. I did get Bob's residence address and am sending him a snail mail. If I have anything more to report, I will do so. As far as I know, he is alive and well, just preoccupied at the moment, I did see him in February at Tucson. Teresa